Re: Reviving watersprings.org.

The oldest draft on rsync.tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpsnmp-overipx-00.txt, 
contains no ISOC *or* IETF copyright boilerplate.

On Jul 17, 2014, at 6:16 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> BTW, it turns out that the IETF *has* a comparable rsync site. One syncs
>       rsync -avz rsync.tools.ietf.org::tools.id ./id
> rather than
>       rsync -avz [—delete] ietf.org::internet-drafts
> I had been using the latter.
>
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/DataSources
>
> On Jul 16, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Warren Kumari <warren(_at_)kumari(_dot_)net> 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Elwyn Davies 
> > <elwynd(_at_)dial(_dot_)pipex(_dot_)com> wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > I also quite liked the watersprings interface and was saddened by its
> > > demise.  However, Henrik's draft searching scheme does most of what I
> > > need and the interface at tools.ietf.org/html/draft... gives you the
> > > access to all the versions and output renderings.
> > >
> > > The only thing lacking is the ability to have a nicely formatted and
> > > resonably compact list of all the drafts ever made starting with a given
> > > letter.  Useful for idle browsing and finding drafts you can't quite
> > > remember the title or authors of.
> > Well, I finally had a chance to poke at this -- I moved everything
> > over to a new VM and fixed it there (instead of poking at the existing
> > one). I never really used the original one, so I'm not sure if I fixed
> > / reimplemented all the features.
> >
> > I also updated some things - the original one was doing some fancy FTP
> > parsing, which I couldn't really see the point of, so I replaced it
> > with rsync. Oh, this also didn't update since ~2011, will see if I can
> > backfill sometime...
> >
> > Anyway, if folk would like to see the new version, it is at
> > http://watersprings.snozzages.com -- once if finished futzing with it
> > I'll change the DNS.
> >
> >
> > > Warren: If you have time and enthusiasm I'd be inclined to see if a
> > > couple of extra screens could be added to what we have already rather
> > > than reimplementating a separate Watersprings clone since the back end
> > > is already in place.
> > This was easier, although it did mean relearning Perl -- will look at
> > reimplementing on the IETF site sometime.
> >
> >
> > W
> > > I don't think that putting back what Watersprings had exactly would give
> > > you any more ancient history.  I seem to remember that it didn't have
> > > drafts earlier than about 1995, but it's a long time since I checked
> > > that ;-). I did when I was looking for Nimrod routing history and other
> > > stuff for the routing history RFC.
> > >
> > > The current tool has a smattering of moderately ancient history already:
> > >
> > > Some of the suggestions for IPng are there:
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-crocker-ip-encaps-01
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deering-sip-00
> > > (The REAL SIP!)
> > >
> > > but I suspect the list is incomplete - however unless the file archives
> > > are lurking in some server, I don't know how we would know (did
> > > ietf-announce exist in those days and would it help?)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Elwyn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 19:15 +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> > > > Interesting, Warren.
> > > >
> > > > I used to use waterspring and still have an annoying bookmark that 
> > > > autocompletes when I start to type www.wat...
> > > >
> > > > At the time that waterspring was set up we didn't archive old versions of 
> > > > I-Ds and once an I-D had expired it disappeared (related issues, but 
> > > > separately annoying). That is no longer the case, so the (UI aside) the 
> > > > main residual value would be retrieving the archive of old I-Ds and I am 
> > > > not so sure how useful that is, but archivists and IPR lawyers might 
> > > > comment).
> > > >
> > > > Adrian
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Warren 
> > > > > Kumari
> > > > > Sent: 02 July 2014 19:09
> > > > > To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org Disgust
> > > > > Subject: Reviving watersprings.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there all,
> > > > >
> > > > > A number of years ago there was a site called watersprings.org which
> > > > > archived Internet Drafts and RFCs and provided some interesting
> > > > > linking between them.
> > > > > I never used it, but apparently a number of folk really liked the
> > > > > interface / etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > The site was hosted in Japan and the creator shut it down to conserve
> > > > > power after the 2011 tsunami. I provided him a VM (on a machine that
> > > > > nLayer / Richard Steenbergen hosts for me), and we started migrating
> > > > > over to it. Unfortunately, he no longer has the time / resources to
> > > > > run the site, and we never finished the migration / the scripts
> > > > > haven't run since then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I've offered to take over maintaining the VM, try figure out
> > > > > how it all works, upgrade it, finish the migration, etc.
> > > > > Before spending the time on this though, I figured I should check if
> > > > > folk still want it / think that it will be a useful resource. The time
> > > > > investment will be fairly significnat, but happy to do it if folk will
> > > > > use it...

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