Re: Sunday tutorials, newcomers, and remote participants

FWIW, I completely agree with Dave's additional point.  I'm less
enthused about remote video generally but, for this case, agree
with Mikael as well.   In particular, for the newcomer's
introduction itself, I think it would be far more beneficial to
get all the glitches ironed out and do a really professional job
that people could see/review well in advance rather than
concentrating on squeezing something into an increasingly-busy
Sunday afternoon schedule.  The usual RFC Editor tools tutorial
would be another key example of the same thing.

best,
   john


--On Saturday, 08 November, 2014 08:13 -0800 Dave Crocker
<dcrocker(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

> On 11/8/2014 5:10 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
> > Done well, they have the potential to be immensely helpful to
> > people not familiar with a particular topic (or the IETF in
> > general).  
> ...
> > We've also been told, repeatedly, that, for those not
> > extremely able in listening to spoken English, having slides
> > and other materials available in advance is extremely
> > helpful, even to the point of making the difference between a
> > session that is understood and one that is an
> > incomprehensible waste of time.
>
> +1 to John's observations and request, but there's a point
> worth adding:
>
>      Most of these tutorials have continuing benefit.
>
>      It would be nice for someone to be able to 'attend' the
> tutorial in 2 weeks, 2 months and in 2 years.
>
> Some of the tutorials won't have value in 2 years, but most
> will, IMO.
>
> In other words, we should treat tutorials as an investment,
> not just a consumable good, and we should record them,
> building an archive of introductory material.
>
> d/