On 02/08/2016 09:08 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:06 PM Fernando Gont <fgont(_at_)si6networks(_dot_)com
<mailto:fgont(_at_)si6networks(_dot_)com>> wrote:
On 02/08/2016 08:20 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo(_at_)tzi(_dot_)org
<mailto:cabo(_at_)tzi(_dot_)org>> wrote:
>> Ronald Bonica wrote:
>>> The words "many" and "some" don't do justice to the
conversation.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-02
provides more concrete numbers from real-world observation.
>>
>> Ah, but the result is much simpler.
>>
>> Some other real world data (Google QUIC experiments) already tell us
>> that a sizable part of the Internet (was it 7 %?) is not
reachable via
>> UDP at all. This just ups that number slightly for IPv6 and UDP
>> protocols that don't have their own segmentation.
>>
>> UDP, it was nice to have known you.
>
> Maybe what we needed all along was a better TCP that allowed data to
> be sent on the first packet.
FWIW, TCP does allow you to send data in the SYN.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7413 for those who are wondering.
Even pre-fast open TCP already allowed this -- however, those data can
only be *consumed* once the 3WHS is complete...
Cheers,
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Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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