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Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations

2016-03-06 10:58:40
Linda,

Very interesting write up. IMHO, the hardest challenge facing IETF is that 
"Internet has been working over several decades".
All the obvious technologies needed to enable Internet have been developed 
already. All that left are tweaks and minor improvement.

I think it is a good point — I like to think of this as enabling truly 
“permissionless innovation” where there’s such a good technology platform that 
little need for permissions or standards are needed. The web for instance is 
very close to such a model.

Yet, I would like to disagree with the “tweaks and minor improvement” part.

It was never the intent that all apps or application protocols be developed at 
the IETF. The number of applications and new forms of communication running 
over the Internet has multiple probably by millionfold since the beginning of 
the Internet. It is a *good thing* that the work and the technology scaled to 
allow this.

Even if it meant that we are done and can go home, it would be a very 
worthwhile thing to do develop a platform that enables other people to build 
everything they need.

But, I don’t think we’re seeing that all development stops. It has changed, 
sure. And there’s a natural slowing in the rate of adaption. Long tails and all 
that. However, from my perspective there are some pretty big things in the 
works and big problems that people should solve, for instance:

* rapid re-design of the web protocol stack (H2, QUIC, maybe COAP etc)
* SDN
* real-time communications on your browser
* privacy in the Internet
* security in the Internet of Things

Perspectives differ, and I realise some people could call these minor tweaks. 
But the point is, the industry and users seem to need new technology. The world 
isn’t ready.

We all know that the future belongs to the App & services. But people from 
those emerging App & services companies are way under represented in IETF.

Yes, and that is a problem (IMHO).

Maybe more Heckathons effort should be invested into attracting Apps & 
Services companies to utilize the work developed by IETF, …

I think that is something that we should look into. We’ve had some discussions 
of taking the Hackathons elsewhere (outside the IETF) as a forum for building 
things on top of the IETF technology. We haven’t done that yet, but if we 
wanted to reach more applications people, that would be one way of doing it.

Jari

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