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RE: Last Call on draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08.txt ("Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology")

2016-03-30 17:20:59
Respecting Apple's IPR, I think that would be "sigh, - Apple(r) brand 
autocorrect functionality helping again."

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Scott O. 
Bradner
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Jari Arkko
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last Call on draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08.txt ("Intellectual 
Property Rights in IETF Technology")

sigh - apple helping again

s/reject/respect/

(although some people might believe the 1st version)

Scott


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Scott O. Bradner <sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

we were trying to reject the consensus we heard but if someone has a better 
way to say this we would be happy to use it

Scott

On Mar 30, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Jari Arkko 
<jari(_dot_)arkko(_at_)piuha(_dot_)net> wrote:

Trying to take this into a practical direction.

I think the current sentence in the draft is fairly broad, and doesn't 
necessarily match practical capabilities that chairs or ADs have, as 
explained by Spencer and others. The issue is, if Spencer doesn't read all 
documents on the other half of the area, or if Jari doesn't read all the 
documents because he delegates some of the review task to a directorate, how 
would we know what to declare, even if we were personally aware of IPR on a 
topic? It may of course be that once we read a document later (such as in 
last call or as part of a final IESG review), you may finally realise that a 
declaration is necessary. But, as noted, not even that is necessarily always 
guaranteed.

Jari





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