Scott:
At IETF 86 in the IPRbis BOF, the minutes reflect fe following conclusion:
Strong sense of the room that active influence counts as participation,
but listening and watching does not.
So, one might argue that an AD can be unaware that a particular document
includes something that needs to be disclosed up to the point that they take
some action on that document, such as sponsoring it.
Can you point to a discussion on the other side of this point?
Russ
On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Scott Bradner <sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com> wrote:
this was the (strong?) consensus of the IPR BOF
Scott
On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo
<Gonzalo(_dot_)Camarillo(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi,
Section 1 (Definitions), subsection k says the following:
Without limiting the generality of the
foregoing, acting as a working group chair or Area Director
constitutes "Participating" in all activities of the relevant
working group or area.
The AD of a large area may not get to read all individual I-Ds or all
email messages sent in all the WGs of the area. We may want to define
this a bit more explicitly.
Cheers,
Gonzalo
On 22/03/2016 2:17 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
All,
RFC 3979 was published in 2005. Since then we’ve gathered a lot of
experience, and we’d like to update the RFC with that experience. This
isn’t a revolution of the IETF IPR approach, it is mostly about
clarification, better documentation, and recognising some other new RFCs
and changes. But the document itself has changed quite a lot and structured
differently than RFC 3979 was.
Some of the main issues (such as how to define participation) were
discussed in the IETF-87 meeting, but there are also a number of other
changes in this document. Please give this document a careful read, and let
us know your feedback.
I am starting a last call on this document today, but gave a longer last
call period to make sure everyone has enough time to comment after IETF-95
as well. And thanks for the comments that some of you have already sent
after the document was published; we’ve observed them and will make them
part of the feedback from the Last Call.
The document is available here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis/
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08
Jari Arkko (as the responsible AD for this document)