On 31/03/2016 10:13, Russ Housley wrote:
Scott:
At IETF 86 in the IPRbis BOF, the minutes reflect fe following conclusion:
Strong sense of the room that active influence counts as participation,
but listening and watching does not.
So, one might argue that an AD can be unaware that a particular document
includes something that needs to be disclosed up to the point that they take
some action on that document, such as sponsoring it.
Yes, but is that an issue? The AD is only required to disclose when
she is "reasonably and personally aware" of the need for a disclosure,
which will presumably become the case when she actually reads the draft
(or sees the slides that describe the technology in question).
Brian
Can you point to a discussion on the other side of this point?
Russ
On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Scott Bradner <sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com> wrote:
this was the (strong?) consensus of the IPR BOF
Scott
On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo
<Gonzalo(_dot_)Camarillo(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi,
Section 1 (Definitions), subsection k says the following:
Without limiting the generality of the
foregoing, acting as a working group chair or Area Director
constitutes "Participating" in all activities of the relevant
working group or area.
The AD of a large area may not get to read all individual I-Ds or all
email messages sent in all the WGs of the area. We may want to define
this a bit more explicitly.
Cheers,
Gonzalo
On 22/03/2016 2:17 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
All,
RFC 3979 was published in 2005. Since then we’ve gathered a lot of
experience, and we’d like to update the RFC with that experience. This
isn’t a revolution of the IETF IPR approach, it is mostly about
clarification, better documentation, and recognising some other new RFCs
and changes. But the document itself has changed quite a lot and
structured differently than RFC 3979 was.
Some of the main issues (such as how to define participation) were
discussed in the IETF-87 meeting, but there are also a number of other
changes in this document. Please give this document a careful read, and
let us know your feedback.
I am starting a last call on this document today, but gave a longer last
call period to make sure everyone has enough time to comment after IETF-95
as well. And thanks for the comments that some of you have already sent
after the document was published; we’ve observed them and will make them
part of the feedback from the Last Call.
The document is available here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis/
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-08
Jari Arkko (as the responsible AD for this document)