Having just participated remotely for this IETF 95, and having thought
about what I was missing while doing so, I feel that nothing can really
replace the actual IETF face-to-face meeting experience. We can strive
to do as much as possible to make remote be equal as possible
participant, but remote participation can never be a 100% substitute for
100s of colleagues spending an intense week together in the same
location focused morning, noon, and night; while eating, drinking,
meeting, relaxing, on the engineering of the Internet.
Why would we want to get rid of such a rich source of inspiration and
invention?
I don't see that meetings aren't working well, instead I think we're
trying to make them work even better through enhanced remote
participation (e.g., meetecho, remote hubs, etc).
Thanks,
Chris.
Rich Kulawiec <rsk(_at_)gsp(_dot_)org> writes:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 03:17:39PM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote:
I don???t believe that this technology exists.
People have remote meetings all day, every day. Lots of technology
exists, more is being invented all the time. Perhaps (to follow
on your mention of Meetecho in 1995) if 20 years had been invested
in making it work for the IETF then it would be working by now.
Yeah, perhaps, some day when we???re all wearing virtual reality
headsets and our avatars are hanging out in a virtual venue, and we all
have sufficient equipment and bandwidth to handle all that. We???re not
there yet.
Nor is there any need to go there. Meetings do not require VR.
Virtual meetings with the technology we have today makes it very hard
for people with mediocre English to follow the discussion.
That's (a) not a very big problem and (b) a solvable problem.
What I'm hearing is a lot of we've-always-done-it-this-way. Well,
that's not working very well except for the privileged elite few
(most of whom are backed by corporations). And I understand
that those with plenty of money and time and freedom have gotten
comfortable with how-things-are-done. It's an easy thing to do,
I've done it myself. But it doesn't serve the long-term interests
of the IETF or the Internet well.
---rsk