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Re: [Nmh-workers] Setup help???

2013-05-03 02:50:56
On Thu, 02 May 2013 21:52:08 -0400 Ken Hornstein <kenh(_at_)pobox(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

My apologies!  It's version 1.3-1 (pretty ancient, I guess, but
that's what's tied to my version of Ubuntu -- something else I
need to update).

Okay, yeah, that explains a lot.  There are some other features
in nmh 1.5 that you might be interested in as well (the web
page has details on the hilights).  The nmh home page is here:

      http://www.nongnu.org/nmh/

Also, you _CAN_ always compile nmh on your own; we did try to
make that as easy as possible.  You shouldn't need to be a
programmer to do it.  There really shouldn't be too much in
terms of system dependencies as long as your OS is relatively
new (and by "relatively", I mean, "within a decade").

Then my OS (Ubuntu 10.04) will work.  B-)  I've avoided building
my own installs because I got tired of maintaining dependencies,
the main advantage (for me) of using Ubuntu.  (It used to be so
easy:  install GNU, then install X, then install a couple of
"etc." software like MH and emacs.  B-)

Yes, the version I'm using doesn't allow me to configure the
"Sender:" field, which was the first thing I try.  NMH gives me
the following error message:

    whom: illegal header line -- Sender:

I wasn't aware that it was NMH that adds in the Sender: field.
I thought it was sendmail.

AFAIK, sendmail will never add a Sender: field.  MH (and as a
consequence, nmh) had a very strong idea that your host's FQDN
and local user account matched your email address; if it saw a
mismatch between that and your supplied From: header, it would
add a Sender: field.  That's finally been corrected as of 1.5.
Now you can add a Sender: if you wish, but otherwise nmh will
treat what you put in your draft as gospel.

Funny -- I was thinking of downloading the NMH source and hacking
it to stop it doing that, and then I read on some webpage that it
was sendmail that did that.  (Bad information!)

I'm really looking forward to version 1.5!

In fact, my "fix" (as I mentioned in
the other followup on this thread, and after a lot of googling)
was to reconfigure sendmail to remap my local (illegal) address
to "dnc2dnc(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com" instead.

It looks like from your other message that you're using spost.
While there are a lot of strong opinions on how you should
configure nmh for sending email (see the mailing list
archives), I will point out that you don't even need to use
sendmail at all; you can configure nmh to have post simply
submit outgoing mail to the gmail SMTP server.  That would make
it behave like every other mail program on the planet.  Doing
that would also require 1.5, though (and you'd need to compile
nmh with Cyrus-SASL and TLS support).

I wasn't aware I was using spost.  (Actually I wasn't aware of
the existence of an NMH package program called "spost" before.)

Not having to use sendmail has appeal, although I would still
need it for the incoming email that I fetch from GMail.  Though
I suspect that there's a way to do that as well without needing
sendmail.  (Ah, never needing sendmail again!  B-)

Thanks!

                                Bob

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