On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:39:18 -0500 Jerry Heyman <jerry@hobbeshollow.com> sez:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:53:34 -0500, David Levine <levinedl@acm.org> wrote:
Bob wrote:
I do see in the headers of your reply that the first "Received:"
header uses "HiddenHostname" ... but also the FQDM(?) of your
Oops, that should've been FQD_N_. B-)
Verizon connection
FQDN, in this case for a dynamically assigned address so not
very useful to anyone other than Verizon. Though they choose
to provide a geographic hint, and "fios", in the name.
Right. I was hopeful that even that could be hidden. For
example, if I use the Gmail web interface, the Received: headers
indicate that it came from Gmail itself (which makes sense). I
was thinking it'd be useful to replicate that, even when I'm
actually sending it from my laptop _via_ the Gmail servers.
But:
So, while I could hide the hostname of my laptop, I wouldn't be
able to hide its "public"/ISP-assigned name (and IP address).
Right, as Tom noted:
Received: lines are generally added by each MTA that the message
passes through. In this case it was smtp.gmail.com that added that;
it's not under your control. You can probably modify the "Hikaru"
Not sure this is helpful, but for years I've hidden my actual
host I send mail from which is
unix.hobbeshollow.com
by putting the following entries in my mts.conf
localname: hobbeshollow.com
masquerade: draft_from mmailid username_extension
This allows me to send email as jerry@hobbeshollow.com.
hobbeshollow.com is my domain.
I pay a 3rd party to connect for my outbound mail from
hobbeshollow.com a nominal fee annually because ATT turned off
that capability about 18 months ago.
David
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2021-03/msg00012.html
jerry
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:10:18 -0500 Jerry Heyman <jerry@hobbeshollow.com> sez:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 11:34:21 -0500, Ken Hornstein <kenh@pobox.com> wrote:
by putting the following entries in my mts.conf
localname: hobbeshollow.com
masquerade: draft_from mmailid username_extension
Just FYI ... we got rid of all masquerade support ... 9 years
ago? Definitely in nmh 1.4. Now, we didn't get rid of the
FUNCTIONALITY. Basically there were all these bizarre rules
around setting your "From" header that you could use the
masquerade entry to relax and we finally agreed that was
dumb, so we got rid of them and you can set your From header
to anything now. That line isn't harming anything, but you
can safely remove it if your nmh is reasonably up to date.
Ken,
My nmh is 1.7, so reasonably current :-)
Since I created during the nmh/mh early days, I've not noticed
the masquerade support was incorporated. the mts.conf file had
served me well for all these years, and I just migrate the same
one from upgrade to upgrade. Since no longer necessary, I'll
remove it!
(If it helps, my NMH is also version 1.7.)
I use the "clientname" option because otherwise it is set to
"localhost.localdomain" (since I don't use "localname"), and that
has been shown to be a huge red spam flag.
But, I think I should not use the "localname" option.
If I correctly understand the implication of using it --
specifically, "the hostname nmh considers local" -- then I think
this would be problematic, as the alternative "local hostname"
I'd want to specify would be "gmail.com." But then, any time I
email "foo@gmail.com," NMH would try to deliver that locally
instead of sending it to the Gmail server, no? That'd result in
100% bounces, since not even my own Gmail username, "dnc2dnc," is
a valid login ID on my laptop. I suppose "bob@gmail.com" would
work, except I don't know them and so don't email them except by
accident. B-)
Bob
Thanks!
jerry
The use of localname is fine; there are other ways to
accomplish that, but that's certainly one way of doing it.
--Ken
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