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RE: Maybe simple question

2003-12-17 05:22:19


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From: Vivien M. [mailto:vivienm(_at_)dyndns(_dot_)org]

Okay, I agree it increases the costs somewhat, but I think Joe could
reengineer his business model. Use each domain for a week, have a gazillion
well-engineered zombies spew a couple million emails from that domain, then
move on to the next one...

A week? My guess would be an hour or less. The moment enough people read
it and vote that it's spam, the domain is history.

An even greater spammer eradication can be achived if only 
ISPs would block outgoing mail TO the disreputed domains, 
preventing the spammers from collecting the responses from 
the suckers who actually want to buy the stuff. That is a 
direct hit on the spammer's source of income. No income from 
spam - no spam. They'll be forced to set up drop boxes on 
different domains, and when those get disreputed...

Now that's a plan I like :)

Avaliable from your local mail gateway, but only after SPF has wide adoption.

Yes, all of which assumes that the employer's IT dept cares. We're talking
about an IT dept supporting 20K+ people here, and unless you have an
important role in the organizational hierarchy, they probably won't listen
to you... The SMTP AUTH option is the only one that scales for large
organizations, anyways... Well, that and VPNs, but VPNs are more costly. 

My hackerish response to this is that if it's that important to your father to 
use
the university domain from home, have him setup a rogue SMTP relay
(authenticated of course!) on his office PC and relay from there, using the
university's SMTP gateway. If the IT dept. doesn't care to provide solutions
for working from home, they won't mind the occasonal well-secured rogue
relay

But other than that you are right. You're in a bind here. Whether the price
your father pays weighs more than preventing spam is not for me to decide.

-- Arik
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