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RE: Moving Forward ...

2004-10-14 04:32:46
FWIW I agree with Mark's statements below:  Make PRA have its own separate 
record published.

Terry Fielder
Manager Software Development and Deployment
Great Gulf Homes / Ashton Woods Homes
terry(_at_)greatgulfhomes(_dot_)com 
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[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com]On Behalf Of Mark 
Lentczner
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:51 AM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Moving Forward ...


On Oct 13, 2004, at 7:37 PM, Meng Weng Wong wrote:
1) what exactly is everyone's objection to allowing v=spf1
   records to be interpreted in PRA scope?
My objection to allowing v=spf1 records to be interpreted in 
PRA scope 
is that such records weren't published about PRA.  If you 
re-interpret 
what people say, and then base reputation systems on such 
re-interpretation, you reduce the strength of the original 
statements: 
Some people will rightly claim that their reputation is not deserved, 
as it is based on misinterpretation of what they published.

Now I realize that for most sites, if they got a bad 
reputation due to 
interpreting v=spf1 in PRA scope, they'd probably have gotten 
the same 
reputation interpreting v=spf1 in the MAIL FROM scope.  But I 
feel that 
making the published statements fuzzier doesn't help us develop a 
strong system.

Lastly, simply subsuming v=spf1 records into PRA smacks of shady 
dealing:  Do you feel that v=spf1 is so good, and so well 
deployed that 
PRA needs to piggy-back on it?  Is it that PRA isn't really 
good enough 
to warrant anyone publishing a new record?  Or is it that you 
feel MS's 
heavy-weight marketing will cause a new PRA record to immediately 
eclipse v=spf1?  I don't buy into these arguments.

2) if MS changed the patent license to be compatible with
   free software, would those objections go away?
No.  My objections to subverting v=spf1 have nothing to do with the 
license.

3) would people rather see Microsoft promote an spf2.0/pra
   syntax, while the opensource world promotes a v=spf1
   syntax?
Yes.

On Oct 13, 2004, at 7:56 PM, Mark Shewmaker wrote:
I would *guess* that Meng and Mark L can figure out some 
way to do the 
equivalent of submitting the whole slew of drafts ...
For the record, I am not involved in the further development of the 
Sender ID drafts.

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