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RE: Re: [IETF] Allocation of the new RR type for SP F

2004-11-12 09:49:33

[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of 
csm(_at_)moongroup(_dot_)com

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Hallam-Baker, Phillip spewed into the bitstream:

HP>You can do just as well by setting up your own standards 
group like 
HP>we did with the Web consortium when the IETF started to become a 
HP>threat to the success of the Web.

It worked too!

As did the OASIS breakaway from W3C when W3C decided not to do Web services
security on time. The IETF did not form the MARID group because they wanted
to solve the problem, they formed the group to avoid the imminent likelihood
of a breakaway that would challenge their authority.

The problem with W3C and OASIS is that the membership fees make it a
difficult structure for projects that require open source participation. It
may seem as if the corporate members are trying to close the gate and
exclude the open source community. This is not the case, there are people
who we want to exclude, namely those people who do not have a commitment to
a timely delivery of a finished spec. 

I think that we could even come to an agreement on IPR terms. Divide specs
up into two types, infrastructure specifications and extensions. The SPF
syntax is an infrastructure specification, all parts of the deployment must
understand it to work. The SPF, CSV and PRA interpretations are logically
extensions but you do need to have at least one commonly supported
interpretation.

Everyone agrees that infrastructure specifications must be completely open
and unencumbered. If we could agree that a no-charge RAND license was
sufficient for extensions then everyone can play. There is a structural
incompatibility between ensuring GNU like reciprocity of licensing terms and
the ability to sublicense that we are not going to bridge in the next few
months. I think that we can bridge the problem in time by moving to a
different legal structure entirely - a rule book model. 


        Phill




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