----- Original Message -----
From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] List of nominations for people to sit on the "SPF
Leadership Council"
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of
jpinkerton
It's probably reasonable to say that there will be a
definitive list and a call to vote by the middle of next
week. I intend making it a short time for voting - say three
days - unless I hear an outcry.
Acghhhh.... This is not the way to hold elections. The rules for the
election should be defined before nominations are opened.
You would do it your way, but .........
I suggest that a good way to begin would be to adopt Roberts Rules of
Order
as your basic rules of proceedure. They are based on the UK Parliamentary
rules of order and have several centuries of experience behind them. They
have their origin in an age when flame wars tended to degenerate into
duels
with swords so they are robust enough for net use.
We've been through the arguement about Roberts Rules and various other
schemes. I have *no* intention of repeating all that. See the
Archives.....
I would also suggest that you are not going to get the right people
attending unless you have a clearer statement of what the group is going
to
do and when and how they are going to meet. Asynchronous messaging is OK
as
a collaboration tool, but to get somewhere useful synchronous methods such
as a bi-weekly con-call are going to be more effective.
We've discussed this. See the archives....
I would suggest that you consider the OASIS rule that membership of the
group and voting rights are determined by attendence. Apache have
developed
something similar.
Same as for RRO....
You also need to decide what the audience is that you are trying to
influence. If you want to influence the corporates then you will have to
have corporates participating. If you want to be open source only that is
a
perfectly reasonable thing to do but you will only be able to influence
standards making in other forums, you will not be able to force the
comercial vendors to follow your lead.
The council's initial mandate is in place and does not include influencing
anyone. See the archives......
What you really need is people who know something about writing
constitutions who are not aligned with particular positions on the spec.
We've got too many people who think they can do that already. Already been
discussed -- see the archives.
Slainte,
JohnP.
johnp(_at_)idimo(_dot_)com
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