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From: "David MacQuigg" <dmquigg-spf(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com>
Newsgroups: spf.-.sender.policy.framework.discussion
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: [spf-discuss] MTP ?
I don't see what is broken in SMTP. It is missing a piece, and we are now
adding that piece. The piece was not necessary in 1982, and if it had
been
added, it probably would have been ignored at the time, and very difficult
to use 20 years later.
Not true. SMTP was not the first mail systems. Other mail systems,
especially commercial did not have the concept of non-authorization
requirements for anonymous final destination mail. All commercial systems
had very strong authorization policies for ALL mail submission.
The following loosly stated history of spam begins with the porn industry as
the the major market pusher for first alias and then anonymous mail.
version 1: Online System offering Real name concepts
There was no anonymous or alias mail concept. The user logged in with the
real acccount only.
version 2: Online System offering ALIAS Mail concepts
The alias association with the user account was still intact. There was no
anonymous mail concept. The user logged in with the real acccount. Some
systems allowed both alias and real name as a way to login. Systems forces
the From: address to be alias or real name.
version 3: Online systems begin to offer ALIAS and ANONYMOUS
The association with the user account was still intact. Login was stilll
required for alias/real names, but this time, the system allowed the user to
use a "free form" input field for the From: field.
There ws still a strong policy for user accountabilitty
version 4: Some Online systems begin to offer complete ANONYMOUS entry
Now we had "daddies" we really wanted to hide with their porn activiity.
They wanted full anonimity with the online hosting systems. Many
developers began to offer it. Our system, still to this day, since 1984,
does not offer complete anonimity to users.
version 5: Online Systems begin to Network
Online hosting systems become your first ISPs and begin to offer store and
forward concepts.
Now we begin to get a mixing of systems and the distribution of news, echos,
rime, qwk, etc, networking. Anonymous mail begins to grow with more users
getting into growing porn/spam market.
Local community/social networks of users is still a big market. Internet
connections was still exclusive to ISPs. Many local communities begin to
pay $5-$30 per month to help offset the cost of local ISP equipment, like
Planet Connect, Holonet.
News Rags like BoardWatch and ISP tradeshows begin like ONE ISPCON (we
exhibited in the first two).
Internet EMAIL and news is mainly still a UUCP/SLIP concept. News echos was
becoming a big mess with anonymous mail. Email Spam was growing too.
version 6: Gore "invents" the internet
and the rest is history. Users begin to dial into the internet, they
discover the new web, they move away from online system and the local
communities.
Online systems begins to die and the better ones migrated with the internet
converting to or augmenting SMTP/POP3, FTP, WEB hosting, etc. (We are the
last of the mohicans of the top 5 million dollar commercial systems. We
shallowed all of them).
Version 7: The Future?
The Online/Private "Login" Hosting, Social Communities/Networking
Reinvented.
So it is basically come to a full circle. Authorization/Authentication is
not a new requirement. We always had it. We just got lost there for awhile
during the "Wild Wild West" internet days where world-wide connectivity was
more important.
Now we got our senses back and we are coming back to having authorization
requirements and accountability. Just like I predicted many years ago when
people were saying our old type of framework was dead! Nope. The kids just
wait out to play for awhile!
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Hector Santos, CTO
Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com
http://www.winserver.com/wcsap (Wildcat! Sender Authentication Protocol)
http://www.winserver.com/spamstats (WcSAP Anti-Spam Stats)