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Re: Validator Testing Request

2005-08-09 12:32:11
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Richard Parker wrote:
On Aug 9, 2005, at 5:42 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

First, and without delay, change ptr:cox.net to ?ptr:cox.net.  That  will
achieve the goal of matching something before the all without  giving
all the
zombies a pass.


On Aug 9, 2005, at 7:07 AM, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:

Because he sometimes sends mail through those ISPs.  What is  probably
better
practice in that situation is the following:

1) TXT electrophobia.com:
    "v=spf1 ?ptr:cox.net include:dsis.net include:easydns.com -all"

In fact, any ISP you include that does not actively prevent
cross-customer forgery should be NEUTRAL.


Yes, in fact I used to be using the exact record that Scott and  Stuart
recommend.  Unfortunately I received an unacceptably high  number of
mail rejections from people who appear to implement a  policy of "reject
mail if SPF record exists and it doesn't return  PASS".  So my choice
was an overly permissive SPF record, no SPF  record, or mail
rejections.  I chose door number 1.  I suppose I  could have kept my
record the same and tried to track down and  personally contact via
another e-mail address all of those who were  implementing that broken
policy, but I'm not dedicated to my use of  SPF enough to do that.

I would say that this is the #1 reason for us to discourage the use of
?all records. People being people, the receivers will adapt to the
perceived reality of what the modifiers mean rather that the "book"
version of what they are supposed to mean.

With AOL and other frequently forged domains publishing ?all rather than
~all or -all the real meaning of '?' goes from neutral to forged in a hurry.

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