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Re: [spf-discuss] Re: TLDs

2007-03-26 13:34:28
On Sunday 25 March 2007 23:27, you wrote:
Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm surprised this has caused so much traffic.  I think that this
whole issue is reasonably clear from an SPF perspective...

Don't get me wrong, but I think you missed the point.  HELO museum
(or similar) triggered the thread, but the point is a single label
<target-name> after _any_ macro expansion, not only %{h}, it can be
anything, e.g. %{l}

Sure.  Agreed.

The topic "is HELO museum an SMTP syntax error" is also interesting,
and in fact discussed on the SMTP list [starting again Wednesday,
after a moratorium trying to stop "two posters" from getting into
a flamewar - okay, one of the two is me, the other is the author :-]

Right, but not an SPF concern.  SPF (per RFC 4408) only deals in FQDN.

I don't recall which RFC (I'm pretty sure it's the same one that
says no all numeric TLDs), but applications are specifically
discouraged from hardwiring the current list of actual TLDs

Yes, 3696, same author, said that 3696 might be wrong if it's not
compatible with 2821, I said both are right, etc., that will be
solved in 2821bis and/or 3696bis, not directly a SPF problem, we
don't support a "dotless" <domain-spec> because it's too complex
for the syntax.

That sounds right to me.

But a "dotless" <target-name> is something that you can get when
normally evaluating perfectly harmless SPF records "v=spf1 a:%{L}"

Anyone actually wanting to put a TLD in an SPF record would be
well advised to include the trailing dot.

Doesn't help, "a:museum" and "a:museum." are both syntax errors,
they get a PermError.  OTOH a:%{L} might even work for a domain
where all local parts "happen" to be existing FQDNs.

Yes.

My main point is that SPF should limit itself to HELO/EHLO arguments that are 
FQDN, whatever that it.  I'm not focused on the macro for HELO/EHLO, but the 
actual HELO/EHLO name given to the SPF library by the calling program.

Scott K

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