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Problems with Messages over 50000 bytes

1992-06-17 10:08:19

Hi,

I would like to bring to your attention a mailing list problem
I have been experiencing with the Internet Monthly Report.  It 
appears that some Internet hosts, and Internet gateways have 
arbitrarily set limits on the size of a message (for example, 
50,000 bytes) they will process.  

Compuserve users and MCIMAIL users have a real problem receiving 
large messages, so many of these users have asked to be removed 
from the Internet Monthly Report mailing list.

To complicate things further Compuserve users and MCIMAIL users 
are listed on the IETF list, and everyone on the IETF list 
automatically is sent a copy of the Internet Monthly Report.  

What can be done about requiring hosts on the Internet to accept large
messages, in particular over 50,000 bytes?


-- Ann & Jon

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554 marla(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Message is too large; 50000 bytes max
554 marla(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Service unavailable

554 morris(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Message is too large; 50000 bytes max
554 morris(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Service unavailable

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554 <ietf(_at_)antaire(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <ietf(_at_)antaire(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable
 
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554 vaxf!smh... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 vaxf!smh... Service unavailable
        
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554 <bellmf!mike(_at_)UWM(_dot_)EDU>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <bellmf!mike(_at_)UWM(_dot_)EDU>... Service unavailable
   
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554 <amiot(_at_)alsysfr(_dot_)uucp>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <amiot(_at_)alsysfr(_dot_)uucp>... Service unavailable

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554 <clapp(_at_)ameris(_dot_)ameritech(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 
100000 bytes max
554 <clapp(_at_)ameris(_dot_)ameritech(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable

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The maximum amount of text that a Macintosh "text edit" window can
display is 32767 bytes.  The Macintosh front end to AppleLink is 
unfortunately implemented using that window type.  Please break up your
correspondence into pieces that are smaller than 32767 bytes, and
resend it. (we know this is a pain, so we're working on it, and hope 
to fix it soon).

letter too large (109067 bytes) from cooper(_at_)ISI(_dot_)EDU to neon.sw 
mwritter
554 
<neon(_dot_)sw(_at_)AppleLink(_dot_)apple(_dot_)com>,<mwritter(_at_)AppleLink(_dot_)apple(_dot_)com>...
Service unavailable
        
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554 <hamilton(_at_)alfalfa(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <hamilton(_at_)alfalfa(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable 

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554 <lantron!randy(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes 
max
554 <lantron!randy(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Service unavailable

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554 rnd!rina... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 rnd!rina... Service unavailable

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554 <johnf(_at_)persoft(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <johnf(_at_)persoft(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable

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554 <julian(_at_)unx(_dot_)sas(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes 
max
554 <julian(_at_)unx(_dot_)sas(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable

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554 <net-people(_at_)bear(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <net-people(_at_)bear(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable

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554 <nes!simons(_at_)phx(_dot_)mcd(_dot_)mot(_dot_)com>... Message is too 
large; 100000 bytes max
554 <nes!simons(_at_)phx(_dot_)mcd(_dot_)mot(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable
  
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554 
<roth%ap542(_dot_)uucp%ztivax(_dot_)siemens(_dot_)com(_at_)SIEMENS(_dot_)SIEMENS(_dot_)COM>...
        Message istoo large; 100000 bytes max

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554 steve(_at_)muddy(_dot_)awdpa(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Message is too large; 100000 bytes max 
554 steve(_at_)muddy(_dot_)awdpa(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Service unavailable

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554 <steve(_at_)LIVINGSTON(_dot_)COM>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <steve(_at_)LIVINGSTON(_dot_)COM>... Service unavailable
550 /usr/source/uunet/error-mail.gator... Can't create output
   
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From: 
MAILER-DAEMON(_at_)decgw(_dot_)rcn(_dot_)mass(_dot_)edu(_dot_)mass(_dot_)edu 
(Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: Deferred: aturner; -SYSTEM-F-EXDISKQUOTA, disk quota

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DATA
<<< 400-aturner; %MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening !AS as output
<<< 400-aturner; -RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed
<<< 400-aturner; -SYSTEM-F-EXDISKQUOTA, disk quota exceeded
<<< 400

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554 holobach(_at_)*(_dot_)eds(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) Message is too 
large; 100000 bytes max
554 holobach(_at_)*(_dot_)eds(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) Service unavailable

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The following mail message could not be forwarded
to MCI Mail for the following Recipients:

        To: 0001706413 <0001706413(_at_)mcimail(_dot_)com>
        To: 0003801143 <0003801143(_at_)mcimail(_dot_)com>
        To: 0004333162 <0004333162(_at_)mcimail(_dot_)com>


MCI Mail stated the message could not be sent because:

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<<< RCPT To:<ddodell(_at_)stjhmc(_dot_)fidonet(_dot_)org>
<<< DATA
554 <ddodell(_at_)stjhmc(_dot_)fidonet(_dot_)org>... Message is too large; 
100000 bytes max
554 <ddodell(_at_)stjhmc(_dot_)fidonet(_dot_)org>... Service unavailable

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554 <jimw(_at_)merit(_dot_)edu>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <jimw(_at_)merit(_dot_)edu>... Service unavailable 

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554 <jhawk(_at_)panix(_dot_)com>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes max
554 <jhawk(_at_)panix(_dot_)com>... Service unavailable

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554 <make(_at_)camphq(_dot_)fidonet(_dot_)org>... Message is too large; 100000 
bytes max
554 <make(_at_)camphq(_dot_)fidonet(_dot_)org>... Service unavailable

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554 olear(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Message is too large; 50000 bytes max
554 olear(_at_)niwot(_dot_)scd(_dot_)ucar(_dot_)edu(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_) 
Service unavailable

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554 <xdos!richardt(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes 
max
554 <xdos!richardt(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Service unavailable
554 <xdos!richardt(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Message is too large; 100000 bytes
max
554 <xdos!richardt(_at_)APPLE(_dot_)COM>... Service unavailable  

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