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RE: [Asrg] Several Observations and a solution that addresses them all

2003-03-10 12:43:24
Absolutely. This is the only way it could work. It costs money & resources
to fight a war. I firmly believe that the costs of fighting this war
outweigh the expenses of not fighting it.

Yes, there is some leakage, but no more than can be found by going through
newsgroups, BBSs, mailing list archives and the like...


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Finch [mailto:fanf(_at_)chiark(_dot_)greenend(_dot_)org(_dot_)uk]On 
Behalf Of Tony
Finch
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:07 PM
To: jhihn(_at_)paytimepayroll(_dot_)com
Cc: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Several Observations and a solution that addresses
them all


Jason Hihn <jhihn(_at_)paytimepayroll(_dot_)com> wrote:

Observations:
1) Spam only comes from those we don't know.

Not if it's forged, Outlook worms being the most common example.

This system seems easily implemented, and will go a long way to
eliminate/cut down/make filterable the spam.

SMTP callout address verification is already in use, although it isn't
a complete solution owing to the number of servers out there that do
recipient address checking very late. It also causes problems because
of the number of servers that do not accept email with a null reverse
path, and the number of users that want to receive email from people
with broken setups. It relies on SMTP servers leaking information about
valid addresses, which some don't like from a privacy point of view,
and others don't like because it makes dictionary attacks easier.

Your scheme implies (somewhat unclearly) a per-message component to
the checking, which would require me to tell all my MXs (or some other
authoritative entity in my domain) about all the email I send so that
the recipients can check it.

Tony.
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ROUGH,
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