On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Brad Spencer wrote:
rules require cooperation or policemen. What's your policeman here?
Right now the policeman is the spammer's ISP - give the ISP evidence
of abuse by the spammer and the ISP just about has to act. The
honeypot operators tell the ISPs of the abuse - the ISPs act.
If that were true, would the blackhole sites that exist today exist?
why couldn't the blackhole sites simply report this to the ISP and
expect the ISP to act? If this were true, any time we found an open
relay, we could report it to an ISP and it'd be blocked at the ISPs
firewall, right?
except it doesn't happen. So how does adding honeypots to the system
make the ISP react to the data?
Spam isn't illegal, except in very limited ways in limited
jurisdictions. And in reality, spam (like porn) is seen as a lucrative
business by some companies. They've already decided to turn a deaf ear
to complaints. How does this change that?
As to the security world, they seem to emphasize making a system
immune to being rooted (as opposed to making those that try to root
systems feel pain.)
could that be because trying to "cause pain" (as in reporting them to
ISPs and having the ISP react in some way) doesn't work?
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