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Re: [Asrg] [ASRG]Other Ideas?

2003-04-10 21:26:49
At 6:42 PM -0700 4/10/03, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
Can you define a solution for spam without a definition of spam? What is the problem we're supposed to solve?

That is actually something I said I was going to try and do a few weeks ago, and never did. I may try and make another pass at it this weekend if I can avoid getting tempted to respond to messages on this list.

I believe that it is possible to describe the *problems* that we are trying to solve without discussing spam or consent. There are slightly different sets of problems for ISPs vs. end-users. And for personal accounts vs. business. And a number of these problems (e.g. massive numbers of bounces) are not solely caused by spam. Given a description of the problems, then it should be possible to look at proposed solutions and determine which part of the space they solve and which they don't. That would (in theory) bypass the whole issue of definitions and consent. Particular *solutions* certainly may require defining consent. But I don't believe that describing the problem space requires it.

Yell at me Monday if I haven't written something up.
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responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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