At 9:55 PM -0400 5/18/03, Yakov Shafranovich wrote:
They said "no" to 16% of the messages I queried them on. The
specific message they used was:
553 VS10-RT Possible forgery or deactivated due to abuse (#5.1.1)
Can you show instances in which they say yes to messages they cannot deliver?
Well they can say yes even though it cannot be delivered - see RFC
2821, section 3.3.
Right. But the question is--do they?
Fortunately it was easy to test. And the answer is--yes. Yahoo
accepts email to addresses that do not exist. I just made up several
and got a 250 response to them all. Needless to say, that throws the
whole stats thing into complete disarray.
It appears that yahoo is only rejecting messages to addresses that it
has already identified as being tagged by spammers. (Thus the 553
rather than 550 response.) A check at a later date would be
interesting, since they might have identified more. But the response
comes not just for abuse, but also for forgery, so that doesn't prove
anything. About the best I can do is mark hosts as to whether or not
they normally do immediate rejects, and disregard those hosts that
don't.
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/ Junk-Free Email Filtering
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society
I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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