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Re: RE: [Asrg] Some data on the validity of MAIL FROM addresses

2003-05-20 11:18:07
At 5:22 PM +0100 5/20/03, Jon Kyme wrote:
 > At 4:25 PM +0100 5/20/03, Jon Kyme wrote:
 >Sorry, what? Your justification for not doing BCP is that it's
 >"non-trivial" to do it on the software you've chosen?


 There are far more reasons to choose a piece of software than just
 it's external interface.

I can't imagine a good technical reason for picking software that makes it
practically impossible to do the job to the same standard as BCP, given the
choice that exists.

Well, I replied off list because I didn't think this was on topic. But I'm just pointing out that we're looking at this from a problem of how mail systems interoperate with each other. When you're in a company buying a mail system, your concerns are:
        - ease of maintenance
        - ease of use for users
        - functionality for users
        - how it works with other systems
The order may vary, but the last one is almost always going to be last. Furthermore, it *looks* like a check-off item. That fact that some mail systems "don't play well with others" doesn't come out until it's *way* too late.

Anyway (back to the original point), Hotmail seems to do better than Yahoo
on the specific issue (response to RCPT TO <non-existent-rcpt>) we were
discussing. It's clear that some operators can do this on very large
distributed systems. Others can't - or won't.

It could well be a "won't". By deferring the reject until after the DATA command you make it very difficult to probe for valid addresses to spam.
--
Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/          Junk-Free Email Filtering
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/   Writings on Technology and Society

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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