RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP

Mark,

Your posting privileges have been revoked due to your posting behavior. You
have continued to ignore the scope of the ASRG's mailing list, ignore
suggestions to move the detailed discussion of your system to an appropriate
mailing list, and constantly advertise your system without any regard for
constructive feedback or other proposals.

If you assure me that you'll stay on-topic for ASRG and stop flogging GIEIS,
I'll conditionally allow you posting privileges back on the mailing list
(moderated until you prove that you really can be a well-behaving list
member).

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark McCarron [mailto:markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 2:45 PM
To: paul(_dot_)judge(_at_)ciphertrust(_dot_)com; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis

As I explained to you off-list also, I am both free to post 
as often and 
reply to whom ever I want.  The current 'work issues' have 
been nothing more 
than revised nonsense relating to matters that have already 
been extensivly 
'defined'.

Mark McCarron.

From: Paul Judge <paul(_dot_)judge(_at_)ciphertrust(_dot_)com>
To: 'Mark McCarron' <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
CC: "'asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org'" <asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:02:14 -0400

Mark,

As I have explained to you previously off-list, the volume of your 
posts relative to the impact of them is disproportionate.

The mailing

list is currently focused on the work items. Your proposal has been 
made known to thr group. At this point, it would be more

efficient to

have detailed discussion of the GIEIS system take place off

in a more

focused forum consisting of interested individuals.

Please set up a separate mailing list for detailed discussion of the 
GIEIS system. This has been done for other proposals such as SPF. 
Please focus on setting this up immediately rather than

responding to

individual responses on the ASRG mailing list. Once this list is set 
up, feel free to post the location to the ASRG mailing list for 
interested parties.

Thanks,
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: C. Wegrzyn [mailto:wegrzyn(_at_)garbagedump(_dot_)com]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:41 PM
To: Mark McCarron
Cc: pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis


God this is becoming silly. Now he is predicting 2.26

million jobs

created by his system to just send email? It really is

time to get

this trite baloney off of the group.I doubt many people believe 
it...

Mark McCarron wrote:

This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system.  The release

version is 0.005

and details job creations of up to 2.26 Million.  The

'GIEIS' system

can be viewed here:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis


Mark McCarron.

From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
To: "'Mark McCarron'" <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>, 
"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>, 
asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS 
Analysis
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 06:19:42 -0700

This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system


This one does not.

(c) Including intellectual copyright, Mark McCarron 2003,

All rights

reserved


By posting in this forum you are agreeing to abide by the IRTF 
IPR policy (such as it is). There is no such thing as 
intellectual copyright.

If you do not want to accept the IPR policy of the group then 
stop posting here.




Mark's Response:

'GIEIS' is well legally protected.  Just because the system is 
discussed here, does not mean it gives away any rights.

Just because

you can talk about MS Outlook Express does not mean you own

it or can

use any of its features.

Also, I think you are more worried that 'GIEIS will

result in the

closure of Verisign as its services would be completely

redundant.

Trying to impose their values ond legal systems on other

countries

has been a favorite with these two, however, as yet, 
unsucessful. Many claims are made but none have been upheld.


Ex-President Noriega of Panama is in jail in Florida

as a result

of an extra teritorial judgement.




Mark's Response:

Yes, and the US is also holding about 600 in a 'legal

blackhole',

doesn't make it legal to the rest of the world.

I am aware of these type of scenarios, however, the simplist

solution is to

avoid the country in question.  Nothing can be done

about that.


The simplest solution would be to avoid GIEIS and

anyone promoting

similar
schemes.

This was due to violations of International law,

quite different.


The extrateritorial application of national law *is*

International

law.




Mark's Response:

No, International law is quite seperate from National

law.  They do,

however, have similar laws.  Also, I don't see any

country in the

world obtaining an extradition warrant for a port scan.


Mark McCarron
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis

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