Mark,
As I have explained to you previously off-list, the volume of your posts
relative to the impact of them is disproportionate. The mailing list is
currently focused on the work items. Your proposal has been made known to
thr group. At this point, it would be more efficient to have detailed
discussion of the GIEIS system take place off in a more focused forum
consisting of interested individuals.
Please set up a separate mailing list for detailed discussion of the GIEIS
system. This has been done for other proposals such as SPF. Please focus on
setting this up immediately rather than responding to individual responses
on the ASRG mailing list. Once this list is set up, feel free to post the
location to the ASRG mailing list for interested parties.
Thanks,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Wegrzyn [mailto:wegrzyn(_at_)garbagedump(_dot_)com]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:41 PM
To: Mark McCarron
Cc: pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
God this is becoming silly. Now he is predicting 2.26 million jobs
created by his system to just send email? It really is time
to get this
trite baloney off of the group.I doubt many people believe it...
Mark McCarron wrote:
This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system. The release
version is 0.005
and details job creations of up to 2.26 Million. The
'GIEIS' system
can be viewed here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis
Mark McCarron.
From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
To: "'Mark McCarron'" <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>,
"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>,
asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 06:19:42 -0700
This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system
This one does not.
(c) Including intellectual copyright, Mark McCarron 2003,
All rights
reserved
By posting in this forum you are agreeing to abide by the IRTF IPR
policy (such as it is). There is no such thing as intellectual
copyright.
If you do not want to accept the IPR policy of the group then stop
posting here.
Mark's Response:
'GIEIS' is well legally protected. Just because the system is
discussed here, does not mean it gives away any rights.
Just because
you can talk about MS Outlook Express does not mean you own
it or can
use any of its features.
Also, I think you are more worried that 'GIEIS will result in the
closure of Verisign as its services would be completely redundant.
Trying to impose their values ond legal systems on other
countries
has been a favorite with these two, however, as yet, unsucessful.
Many claims are
made but none have been upheld.
Ex-President Noriega of Panama is in jail in Florida as a result of
an extra
teritorial judgement.
Mark's Response:
Yes, and the US is also holding about 600 in a 'legal blackhole',
doesn't make it legal to the rest of the world.
I am aware of these type of scenarios, however, the simplist
solution is to
avoid the country in question. Nothing can be done about that.
The simplest solution would be to avoid GIEIS and anyone promoting
similar
schemes.
This was due to violations of International law, quite different.
The extrateritorial application of national law *is* International
law.
Mark's Response:
No, International law is quite seperate from National law. They do,
however, have similar laws. Also, I don't see any country in the
world obtaining an extradition warrant for a port scan.
Mark McCarron
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis
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