As I explained to you off-list also, I am both free to post as often and
reply to whom ever I want. The current 'work issues' have been nothing more
than revised nonsense relating to matters that have already been extensivly
'defined'.
Mark McCarron.
From: Paul Judge <paul(_dot_)judge(_at_)ciphertrust(_dot_)com>
To: 'Mark McCarron' <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
CC: "'asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org'" <asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:02:14 -0400
Mark,
As I have explained to you previously off-list, the volume of your posts
relative to the impact of them is disproportionate. The mailing list is
currently focused on the work items. Your proposal has been made known to
thr group. At this point, it would be more efficient to have detailed
discussion of the GIEIS system take place off in a more focused forum
consisting of interested individuals.
Please set up a separate mailing list for detailed discussion of the GIEIS
system. This has been done for other proposals such as SPF. Please focus on
setting this up immediately rather than responding to individual responses
on the ASRG mailing list. Once this list is set up, feel free to post the
location to the ASRG mailing list for interested parties.
Thanks,
Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Wegrzyn [mailto:wegrzyn(_at_)garbagedump(_dot_)com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 12:41 PM
> To: Mark McCarron
> Cc: pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com; asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
>
>
> God this is becoming silly. Now he is predicting 2.26 million jobs
> created by his system to just send email? It really is time
> to get this
> trite baloney off of the group.I doubt many people believe it...
>
> Mark McCarron wrote:
>
> > This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system. The release
> version is 0.005
> > and details job creations of up to 2.26 Million. The
> 'GIEIS' system
> > can be viewed here:
> >
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis
> >
> >
> > Mark McCarron.
> >
> >
> >> From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
> >> To: "'Mark McCarron'" <markmccarron_itt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>,
> >> "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>,
asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> >> Subject: RE: [Asrg] 6. Solutions - Replacing SMTP - GIEIS Analysis
> >> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 06:19:42 -0700
> >>
> >> > This post relates to the 'GIEIS' system
> >>
> >> This one does not.
> >>
> >>
> >> > (c) Including intellectual copyright, Mark McCarron 2003,
> All rights
> >> > reserved
> >>
> >> By posting in this forum you are agreeing to abide by the IRTF IPR
> >> policy (such as it is). There is no such thing as intellectual
> >> copyright.
> >>
> >> If you do not want to accept the IPR policy of the group then stop
> >> posting here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark's Response:
> >
> > 'GIEIS' is well legally protected. Just because the system is
> > discussed here, does not mean it gives away any rights.
> Just because
> > you can talk about MS Outlook Express does not mean you own
> it or can
> > use any of its features.
> >
> > Also, I think you are more worried that 'GIEIS will result in the
> > closure of Verisign as its services would be completely redundant.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > Trying to impose their values ond legal systems on other
> countries
> >> > has been a favorite with these two, however, as yet, unsucessful.
> >> > Many claims are
> >> > made but none have been upheld.
> >>
> >> Ex-President Noriega of Panama is in jail in Florida as a result of
> >> an extra
> >> teritorial judgement.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark's Response:
> >
> > Yes, and the US is also holding about 600 in a 'legal blackhole',
> > doesn't make it legal to the rest of the world.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >I am aware of these type of scenarios, however, the simplist
> >> solution is to
> >>
> >> >avoid the country in question. Nothing can be done about that.
> >>
> >> The simplest solution would be to avoid GIEIS and anyone promoting
> >> similar
> >> schemes.
> >>
> >> > This was due to violations of International law, quite different.
> >>
> >> The extrateritorial application of national law *is* International
> >> law.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark's Response:
> >
> > No, International law is quite seperate from National law. They do,
> > however, have similar laws. Also, I don't see any country in the
> > world obtaining an extradition warrant for a port scan.
> >
> >
> > Mark McCarron
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/giza.necropolis
> >
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