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Re: [Asrg] 0. General - Administrative - for M. Wild

2003-08-30 16:04:06
At 9:42 AM -0400 2003/08/30, Richard Rognlie wrote:

 It's no worse than listening to a DUL RBL.  If you don't know
 the IP you are connecting through, I don't want to talk to you.
 I want to speak to *well behaved* MTAs.   If you're behind a NAT,
 talk to your local provider's MTA.

This doesn't work if people start adopting RMX-like solutions, and I have a dozen e-mail addresses. Or .forwards. Or /etc/alias-based mailing lists. Or other reasons for attempting to use legitimate third-party relays.

 e.g.  my personal mail server recently ran afoul of rr.com anti-spam
 efforts.  it seems someone on the /24 where my boxes reside sent a bunch
 of bad email to rr.com, so they blocked the whole /24, not just the
 single IP... their servers, their rules...  but I was able to route
 rr.com mail through my ISPs mail servers until the block was lifted.

How many people have the knowledge and skills necessary to do this sort of thing?

 We'll see how many complain about what's in place now.  I don't
 think I'm being draconian.  Just asking that people run their
 own services well.

But how many complaints are you not getting? For example, I don't ever talk to anyone who uses a TMDA/ASK-like system, not even to complain about their anti-spam measures.

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