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RE: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - CRI Draft - 4.1 Loop Avoidance

2003-10-02 09:32:53
Eric,


If we start adding various messaging such as with DSNs...I 
don't think that we should be hijacking a sender's email 
address to carry various protocol information.


I'm not sure what you mean by that. If CRI is a protocol between two
people, instead of two systems, I don't see what's wrong w/ using the
user's email addresses.  

Of course, that's just my opinion and why it's merely a 
recommendation rather than a must, shall...


If its just a recommendation, then why not recommend something which
simplifies the situation and reduces overhead?



-----Original Message-----
From: asrg-admin(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:asrg-admin(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
Peter
Kay
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:08 PM
To: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - CRI Draft - 4.1 Loop Avoidance

I finally had a chance to come up for air to respond to 
Eric/Yakov's 
draft at 

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-asrg-cri-00.txt
  . ASRG 
owes you much for your hard work in creating this document and I 
personally thank you for furthering an important area of 
interoperability.

On loop avoidance section, specifically:

"For CRI systems that issue challenge messages, it is also recommended

that each CRI system use a local systemwide user, such as 
cri(_at_)foo(_dot_)com,

for issuing challenges rather than preserving the original sender's 
email address as the sender of the challenge message."

We disgree.

Most CR systems automatically/dynamically add the recipient to the 
sender's whitelist.  So if I send an email to eric(_at_)cri(_dot_)com, he's 
automatically added to my whitelist.  If the mail-from on his
challenge
is eric(_at_)cri(_dot_)com, his email comes straight to my inbox without 
delays
or
filters and certainly won't get challenged.  If the mail-from on his 
challenge is "challenger(_at_)cri(_dot_)com", the CRI protocol needs to be
invoked,
possibly creating unecessary overhead.

Keeping the mail-from consistent allows CRI systems to naturally 
interoperate and assuming that the CR system adds recipients to the 
whitelist, elegantly solves the problem of CR systems challenging
other
challenges.

Peter





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