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Re: [Asrg] Whack-a-mole (was Re: The fundamental misconception about paying for mail)

2008-11-30 13:52:22

On Nov 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Bart Schaefer wrote:

On Nov 30, 12:49pm, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
}
} I do mean that.  The point I'm trying to make (and may not be making
} very well) is that there's no way for an external entity, like a server,
} to programatically tell the difference between (a) a real/non-spam
} message sent by the former owner of a zombie and (b) a spam message sent
} by the new owner of the zombie.

The external entity needs to diferentiate to block all the spam from
the zombie, but it doesn't need to differentiate to report that a
message (any message) was sent using that former owner's identity.

There already exist systems like DCC that collect statistics on large
numbers of email messages at recipient servers and report back.  If
the feedback loop could be completed back to the former owner via some
external channel, in the way that a monthly statement from the phone
company lists all the telephone numbers one has called, the former
owner might have a chance to de-zombie his system.

That's after the fact - which isn't a bad thing, but it's no better than
things that can be done (and is being done) by consumer ISPs at a local
level, without needing feedback loops or any other sort of global
system. (Netflow, layer 3 monitoring, walled gardens, that sort of
thing).

Cheers,
  Steve

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