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Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM charter

2005-11-14 21:25:46

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Leiba" <leiba(_at_)watson(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com>
To: "IETF DKIM pre-WG" <ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM charter


I really like your suggestion in
http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim/2005q4/001359.html that we move
away from the word "policy" and use "declaration".  Should we do that
here as well?

Thank you.  I looked at the text here, and there are only two places
where we say "policy", and I can't see a good way to turn either of
those directly into "declaration" without changing what they mean.
The first says, "and to publish 'policy' information about how it
applies those signatures."  I could make it, "and to publish declarative
information about how it applies those signatures," or simply, "and to
publish information about how it applies those signatures."  What do you
(plural) think?

The second one is in the definition of the deliverable, so I could
change that from, "A standards-track specification for DKIM policy
handling," to "A standards-track specification for DKIM signing
declarations."  That changes it significantly, and it worries me to
change the charter text so much -- and the actual content of the document
is quite up-in-the-air right now anyway.

Maybe we should leave the charter text as it is, and wait until we start
beating on the document before we decide whether we want to call it
"policy" or "declaration" or "bad thing that we've decided not to do
after all."

Good idea! <g>

My comment:

What is the reason again for changing it in the first place? Establishing a
common ground between administrators and implementators?  Or to add strength
to the protocol?

Is "policy" too lose of a term? an administrative prerogative?

As oppose to "practice" or "declaration" which to me, I can see how it
connotates a common setup or common expected mode of operation between
systems?

hmmmm, why not "mode?"

Lets see:

    "domain.com has a EXCLUSIVE DKIM practice"
    "domain.com has a STRONG DKIM declaration"
    "domain.com has a WEAK DKIM policy"
    "domain.com is operating in a NEUTRAL DKIM mode"

Mode is more like policy -- too lose, too system specific.

If we are trying to add some "strength" to DKIM so that systems follow the
specs, that I guess I can see for something other than policy.  But I like
policy because we have been using for long to describe a systems local mail
policy.  It fits right in with everything else and in the end I think
customers will understand policy better.

I vote - lets move on. :-)

--
Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com





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