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Re: [ietf-dkim] Concerns about DKIM and mailiing lists

2006-03-15 09:35:15
John R Levine wrote:
That assumes that mailing list software's perogatives trump all. They
don't.

Of course they do.  I run majordomo2, I like it just the way it is, and I
expect to run its output through my MTA that puts my domain's signature on
all its outgoing mail.  How exactly do you propose to make me do something
else?  (Hint: RFCs are suggestions, not commands.)  What will happen to me
if I don't?

  If you don't care whether your subscribers get their mail, nothing.
  If you do, then maybe you'll start listening rather than sneering.

The object here is to reach an accommodation between these two competing
needs. But if I had to say who ought to lose push come to shove, it
would be mailing list software that insists on changing my original
content and then trying to pass it off as if I wrote it.


Putting on my list owner hat, I would point out that if you don't like
what a list does to your mail, you are free not to send mail to it.  I
would be amazed if any list operators felt otherwise.

  Putting on my domain's receiver hat on, you are perfectly
  at liberty to send into my black hole. You are a very small
  and inconsequential domain. Do you really think that I'm going
  to care about your whinging as you hit the event horizon?

  People are in denial if they think that mangling mailing lists
  are anything other than inconsequential noise, and a fine candidate
  for collateral damage if that's the easier/safer path.

                Mike
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