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Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: ssp-requirements-01 // DKIM Strict definition needed.

2006-09-21 16:12:12
Douglas Otis wrote:


On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:

Douglas Otis wrote:

On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:

Douglas Otis wrote:


o  DKIM Strict: the state where the domain holder believes that all
  legitimate mail purportedly from the domain are sent with a
  valid DKIM signature and that non-compliant services are avoided.

What is difficult to understand with this definition? Is a definition needed for non-compliant services?


How does this differ from scenario #1?


This definition better pertains to scenario #1 than does DKIM Signer Complete which fails to offer assurances that non- compliant services are believed to have been avoided. This defined state allows greater clarity when attempting to differentiate between Scenario #1 and #2. The term "Strict" was borrowed from Eric's draft.


So is this an issue of just wanting to inject the word "strict" somewhere into scenario #1?
If so, I've already said why I don't think that's helpful.


The term "DKIM Strict" is an alias for a defined state that excludes non-compliant services.

Scenario #1 and #2 must be able to declare a different state to ensure proper handling of their messages. Being able to differentiate between these two states allows the 1% of instances where different handling of signature failure is desired, without potentially jeopardizing the delivery integrity of a domain that asserts the "DKIM Signer Complete" state.

In the case of scenario #2, knowing non-complaint services are used then permit all such known and well run non-compliant sources. These sources will be rather easy to identify and list. However, making this allowance for Scenario #1 would seriously reduced the desired security being sought. If "DKIM Signer Complete" is allowed, then "DKIM Strict" must also be allowed or this introduces a serious security flaw when considering how a "DKIM Signer Complete" state might be handled in practice.

I've read this three times and can't figure out how it is responsive to my
question.

      Mike
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