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Re: [ietf-dkim] RE: I think we can punt the hard stuff as out of scope.

2007-06-06 08:00:58
Stephen Farrell wrote:

Hector,

You are correct that there is no MUST NOT. But the fact
that we excised the MUST is significant. I interpret that
as follows:

- Its ok for someone to develop a proposal for how nomail
could be included, so long as it doesn't get in the way
of the meeting the MUST & SHOULD requirements, which we
do first (that's sort-of what PHB suggested yesterday, I
think);
- its not ok to hold up work on the basis that nomail
isn't included.

Later in your mail you seem to say that there was some
ambiguity when we decided the above. I totally disagree
with that - the mail archive is very clear.

First, I disagree. It wasn't very clear. The mere fact you are still having this issue, proves the point. Its common sense, if I don't send mail (signed or unsigned) with a particular domain, then the DKIM VERIFIER and DKIM DOMAIN should be subject to this type of abuse which will be naturally be very common which people begin to switch on DKIM.

There were decisions made offlist and in the chat room where there was clearly mis-representation.

Second, I take offense to the insinuation that I am holding up work here. The current approach is whats holding things up. Not me. We are now talking about MX methods, SPF and SENDERID methods, with incorrect statements that there are well established current methods to achieve the NO MAIL policy, or that it is the same as "STRICT", when it is not. If these the basis for eliminating NOMAIL, then the issue was presented incorrectly, the straw poll was based on incorrect poising of the questios. This approach was wrong and that is keeping this group from moving on.

--
Sincerely

Hector Santos, CTO
http://www.santronics.com
http://santronics.blogspot.com

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