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Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Interoperability Event notes

2007-11-08 16:41:58
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Hector Santos wrote:
It is clearly a threat entry point allowing anyone to try to create a DKIM signature and all they have to do is add t=y with the hope the receiver will ignore all fail validations.

There was no discussion on this point.

How can an attacker add t=y to a signature? That only exists in keys and policies.

They can make themselves look like cisco.com or any other HV domain and with the obvious failure and t=y, how will verifiers react to this?

The SSP specs says to ignore the failed validation.

The bad guys will use this with the HOPE they can get one foot in the door, in fact, verifiers might not even TRY to validate at all because a t=y will trigger a "SKIP DKIM" concept.

There are few things were:

First, a t=y success should be ignored just like a t=y failure is ignored. If a success has value, so does a failure.

Second, based on SPF experience, since day one I have outlined on numerous occassions how this is being ignored by some SPF implementation, and

Third, it should come with an expiration period concept.

At the very least, and this was suggested as well, any semantic about t=y should come that the VERIFIER has the ultimate decision on how to handle t=y. Saying it should be IGNORED, well, that definition will be IGNORED itself. The statements should also include semantics about limiting this usage to migration periods and should not permanently be in place.

Finally, in the now expired DSAP proposal,

http://www.isdg.net/public/ietf/drafts/draft-santos-dkim-dsap-00.html

This is what we had for t=y:

4.7.  DSAP Tag: t=y

   The t=y tag is optional.  If defined, the domain is currently testing
   DKIM.  Verifiers SHOULD NOT treat testers any different from
   production mode signers.  It SHOULD NOT be used as a way to bypass a
   failed signature classification policies.  However, verifiers SHOULD
   track testers for over extended usage of test signatures and MAY
   consider using the results to provide feedback to the domain.

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Hector Santos, CTO
http://www.santronics.com
http://santronics.blogspot.com

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