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RE: [ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a reportingaddress(fwd)

2007-11-14 08:36:20
I am happy to say that DKIM MUST support the use of ARF as A reporting format 

I disagree that it should be the only reporting format supported. What we want 
today and what we will want in five years time are going to be different. ARF 
is a decent start but its limited. To go much further it is going to be 
necessary to use structured data.


-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Damon
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:44 PM
To: O'Reirdan, Michael
Cc: ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a 
reportingaddress(fwd)

+1

 I believe that I was the one that asked for the feedback 
loop a long time ago.
I like the ARF format.
Not really concerned about it being abused. I have far worse 
in the postmaster box just as it is. It is just another tool to help.

Regards,
Damon Sauer

On Nov 10, 2007 1:38 PM, O'Reirdan, Michael 
<Michael_OReirdan(_at_)cable(_dot_)comcast(_dot_)com> wrote:
I agree. It would be a massive hassle for us to have to do 
something else.

Mike O'Reirdan

________________________________

From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org on behalf of John Levine
Sent: Sat 11/10/2007 12:23 AM
To: ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a 
reporting 
address(fwd)



I gather that AOL has something where you (a sender) can 
sign up to 
receive an ARF feed of stuff you are sending that is 
generating spam 
reports.  It's probably a good guess that this or 
something close to 
it is what the big guys are using to share information between 
themselves.  (Honestly, I don't know for sure if this is 
what they do 
use, but I assume so.)

AOL, Hotmail, and Earthlink all have feedback loops that 
return mail 
reported as spam in ARF format.  Works great.  (Nothing 
secret about 
this, by the way.)

Largely as an experiment, I've been sending all my spam 
reports in ARF 
for the past year or so.  Other than the occasional ISP who 
still is 
afraid to open attachments, they've been accepted very well, even 
without any prearrangement with the recipients.

If you're going to send back reports about messages, via SSP or 
otherwise, it'd be nuts to use any format other than ARF.  
You might 
want to add another couple of items to the report info, but ARF is 
designed to be easily extensible.

R's,
John

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