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[ietf-dkim] Re: Tracing SSP's paradigm change

2007-12-13 07:10:01
Jim Fenton wrote:

we're in the "treat the message (hint-hint, nudge-nudge) with
prejudice" realm, which is more dangerous than being more
specific, as Scott Kitterman has noted about SPF.

Some folks including me disagree very strongly with this opinion:

* SPF is very strict about not dictating any "receiver policy",
  and in one case (PermError) this strict approach even caused
  a now confirmed erratum re-inserting the lost extended error
  code for receivers wishing to reject PermError.

* For obvious reasons checking SPF works best at the border MTA
  in an SMTP session before DATA.  Getting a FAIL at this point
  receivers obviously better reject the mail, otherwise they'd
  later be forced to drop it (bouncing FAIL is no sound option).

* Some folks discussed here under the tag "high value phishing
  targets" proposed a "DWIM FAIL" introducing "receiver policy"
  REJECT for this "harderfail" or whatever it is.  The proposal
  wasn't accepted, as it would water down millions of policies
  with an ordinary FAIL, also of course hoping for a REJECT in
  (rare) cases of "clueless receiver checked behind his border".

* This reasoning is simple, obvious, and valid for SPF, it's not
  necessarily also good for PRA or SSP.  If you want "DWIM FAIL"
  in SSP go for it, but don't say that it's lacking in SPF.

 Frank

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