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Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-26 13:21:57
Stephen,

I fear that this is a real matter of technical confusion -- not just literary 
taste -- and that the source of confusion is common to the topic and not just 
how the document is written.

That's not to say that the writing might not be contributing to the confusion.

So let's see if we can have a brief dialogue to clarify the points of 
distinction, which might make better wordsmithing easier.

The current wording is trying to emphasize the difference between reference and 
referrant, or the thing and a label for the thing.  Identity is meant to refer 
to the thing itself, such as you, where as identifier is meant to refer to a 
label, such as "Stephen Farrell".

 From my own historical confusion in these sorts of discussions, as well as the 
confusion i keep seeing in others, making and maintaining the distinction 
between thing and label is very real challenge, often failed.

To the particulars of the document:

    A domain name is an identifier.  The organization owning it is the 
identity. 
  The trademarked name of the company is another identifier.  Sometimes the 
domain name is treated as the online name of the company, as well as its 
"address".  That's ok.  It's still an identifier, even if it is thought of as 
similar to the  registered corporate name.  (Distinguishing between domain name 
and company name might be important for assessment services, but it isn't for 
DKIM signature validation.)

    So with the above as background, can you elaborate a bit on the confusion 
you are seeing?  Anything that you or others can provide might help us better 
understand the underlying writing problem that we need to address.

Thanks.

d/
Stephen Farrell wrote:
(As a participant only again)

The use of the term "identity" throughout is somewhat confusing.  I
don't have a simple change to suggest. As an example, the start of
section 2 says: "Given the presence of that identifier, a receiver can
make decisions about further handling of the message, based upon
assessments of the identity that is associated with the identifier."
I find that hard to understand and could imagine it being very confusing
to general readers.

My suggestion would just be to ask the editors to give it a pass
where they check that the various uses of this and related terms
are ok and clear. As far as I'm concerned this issue can be closed
as soon as they say "yes, we did that"

S.




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