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Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal for new text about multiple header issues

2010-10-25 17:21:59
On 10/25/10 2:12 PM, Steve Atkins wrote:
On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
Isn't the more interesting attack a signature from some throwaway domain 
that covered a matching From: but also contained a From: indicating some 
high-value phish target?
Not really, no. Signing the From: field means nothing other than that it is 
the same as when it was sent.

I can sign mail with d=blighty.com and "From: doolally(_at_)ebay(_dot_)com" 
without needing to play any games with multiple headers


The only interesting attack in this entire situation is the ability to take a 
message signed by a high-reputation domain, so that it'll get delivered to 
the inbox, and to replace the Subject: (and possibly From:) with your own 
payload.
Disagree.  It could be signed by a large domain that is unlikely 
blocked, where the high value domain can then be spoofed because of a 
poorly defined DKIM verification process, regardless where the DKIM 
verification process happens to be located.
It's also not specific to MUAs.  Filtering agents can be similarly
duped.
They can, yes, though I'm not sure that's needed to explain why this
may be a bad thing to allow.
Focusing on the MUA case might inadvertently suggest to implementers of 
other components that this is not a concern for them.
True. Though it really shouldn't be a significant concern for them, as 
filtering agents that are DKIM aware (should anyone create such a thing) and 
have a valid DKIM identity will likely use that in preference to, say, the 
From: field. And if the filtering agent is not DKIM aware, it's not an issue.
DKIM verification is still  DKIM verification regardless where this 
process is located.  Stop hand waving.  This process MUST be correctly 
defined to protect the consumers of these results.

-Doug
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