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RE: alternate submitter syntax

2004-07-26 22:42:48

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| TP> When I hit reply I expect to be corresponding with the PRA. 
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| MW> That would be funny, because the PRA should be b(_at_)b(_dot_)com,
| MW> which is yourself!
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| TP> No! According to your example I am C(_at_)C(_dot_)com(_dot_) 
| TP> You have not addressed the issue. 
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OK, then, if you are c(_at_)c(_dot_)com, who is b(_at_)b(_dot_)com?

I originally said:

  In the forwarding case, where

    a(_at_)a(_dot_)com sends mail to b(_at_)b(_dot_)com
                          b(_at_)b(_dot_)com forwards to c(_at_)c(_dot_)com,

  When c.com receives the message, it sees

    MAIL FROM:<a(_at_)a(_dot_)com> SUBMITTER=<b(_at_)b(_dot_)com>

  Due to the nature of the forwarding relationship, b(_at_)b(_dot_)com
  and c(_at_)c(_dot_)com can be said to represent the same entity.

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Okay so let's see if I understand you correctly. 

   a represents  friend@ hotmail
   b represents  bob @ work
   c represents  bob @ home

And the MTA at B talks to the MTA at C as such:-

  Eg MAIL FROM: <a(_at_)a(_dot_)com> SUBMITTER=<b(_at_)b(_dot_)com>

  Eg MAIL FROM: <friend(_at_)hotmail> SUBMITTER=<bob(_at_)work>



Given that a(_at_)a(_dot_)com is unlikely to have published SPF records
that authorise the MTA at B to make this claim to the MTA at C 
then its only going to work if the MTA at C has some rule to bypass 
SPF checking for email from the MTA at B. Otherwise such an SPF test
would fail to pass the bounce address. 

The MTA at C can do this if it trusts that B has already made the 
relevant checks already and is itself trustworthy.

In effect the MTA at C must whitelist email from the MTA at B.  


However we could instead constructed a command sequence
such as:-

  Eg MAIL FROM:<b(_at_)b(_dot_)com> SUBMITTER=<a(_at_)a(_dot_)com>

  Eg MAIL FROM:<bob(_at_)work> SUBMITTER=<friend(_at_)hotmail>



Which would seem altogether more reasonable and logical to me. 

And in this case a(_at_)a(_dot_)com is the reply address. Ie REPLYTO.



Am I missing something? 




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