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Re: opes and technology picks

2001-06-22 14:59:42

When you have a big standards organization like the IETF, groups that work
on bad ideas are very much desirable.  They soak up the attention of
go-ers, salescritters, loons, and career managers. 

they also soak up time of other well-meaning IETF participants, not the least
IESGers who have to review their documents and try to do damage control.

some of us have joked about forming a Golgafrinchian Ark B working group, and 
some of us have seriously considered doing it.  but in my experience the 
groups that are out of control really do waste a lot of resources that could
be better spent elsewhere, and they really do harm IETF's reputation by
producing stuff which is useless at best and harmful at worst.
 
Talk such as this is not cheap.  It harms by wasting time and distracting
from the issues that matter.  

in case you haven't noticed, this conversation isn't just about OPES.

Instead of wasting time talking a battle that
is already lost, how about fixing cs.utk.edu to answer EHLO with STARTTLS?

it's a fallacy that you can reduce system complexity by adding more complexity.

Ketih

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