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Re: in memoriam

2001-10-19 10:50:02
Americans in the list below will likely understand that freedom is a special
thing.
As our leaders have said, we will defend our freedom at all costs. We are
willing
to die for our freedom. We value the freedom of speech and the freedom of
the
press.

I find it amazing that non-U.S. citizens think that they can infiltrate
networks in
the U.S. and attempt to deny U.S. citizens their basic rights. I find it
amazing that
they have the nerve to attempt to "ban" and censor American's on their own
networks and their own soil. What has this world come to?

If the so-called Internet Community or the Internet Society thinks that it
has
grown to be so pervasive that it will invade America and attempt to dictate
a
new world order, then I think that all leaders in America need to take a
very
hard look at who are the people behind this so-called "Internet Community"
or "Internet Society". It appears to be a society out of control. It appears
to
be a society that does not value the same basic ideals that all Americans
enjoy.

I am not ashamed to say that I prefer to be a free American, as opposed to
a member of the so-called Internet Community. The more I see who are the
members of the Internet Community, the happier I am to be an American.

Jim Fleming

----- Original Message -----
From: "TOMSON ERIC" <Eric(_dot_)Tomson(_at_)siemens(_dot_)atea(_dot_)be>
To: "'Jim Fleming'" <jimfleming(_at_)prodigy(_dot_)net>
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: in memoriam


??? Help !!! That guy is an insult for the whole Internet community !!!
Isn't it really possible to ban him from this list ??? Pleeeeeeeeease ?
:o(

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fleming [mailto:jimfleming(_at_)prodigy(_dot_)net]

In my opinion, the reverse is the case. I believe that it is time
for non-U.S. citizens to be identified as such on America's Internet
and they should not be allowed to freely use America's Internet to
market their protocols and other developments without the proper
customs clearances and work visas. Americans have let their guard
down, they have been far too polite. It is time to close the network
borders and make them as secure as the physical borders.

The Next Generation Internet will be built in America, by Americans, for
Americans.
You are welcome to attempt to fly here and clear immigrations to see what
it
looks like.
You are also welcome to continue to play with the "toy" IPv4 technology.

The "toy" IPv4 Internet is a sewer.
IPv8 is designed to be a swamp to cover the sewer.
IPv16 is the "high-ground"....

Jim Fleming

----- Original Message -----
From: "TOMSON ERIC" <Eric(_dot_)Tomson(_at_)siemens(_dot_)atea(_dot_)be>

2.Stop advertising America ; the Internet has not been limited to
American
users for years now (*).



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