Okay. Can somebody please tell me what the relevance of this is to the
IETF. This is absolute noise. Take this thread off-line. This list is
starting to annoy the heck out of me. I am starting to get the same feeling
about this list and SPAM. The list is starting to be unusable.
Moderator please do your job and moderate!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Schneiders [mailto:marc(_at_)schneiders(_dot_)org]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:15 PM
To: william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
Cc: Rob Austein; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last 7 days on the IETF list
I am sure you are right, but in the list below the bytes and
number-of-messages rankings are more or less identical. Since
this is in the context of overload of the list by a limited
number of people, the number of bytes real contribution is
not relevant. People don't read it anymore. All what counts
is number of (slight) irritations while reading mail and
total bytes traffic (if we pay for it).
What you want to know, isn't ascertainable through some log
analyzing script. You have to read all the messages. And we
do not do that anymore.
On Fri, 30 May 2003, at 17:43 [=GMT-0700], william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net wrote:
I don't think posting message size is quite appropriate as part of
your statistics and even more particularly as a criteria to
order the
list. Unless I'm mistaken you're calculating bytes for
entire message
but often
75% comes from another message being replied to and so you can't
really
judge amount of input the actual poster added to the
message. If you
want message bytes statistics, you could try to see what
parts of that
were not from previous message and only calculate size
based on that.
On Fri, 30 May 2003, Rob Austein wrote:
Traffic statistics (as seen from my cave, your milage may
vary) for
the last seven days on the ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org mailing list.
Conclusions, if any, are left as an exercise for the reader.
Messages | Bytes | Who
-------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------
11.4% | 53 | 13.9% | 233614 | dean(_at_)av8(_dot_)com
12.2% | 57 | 10.1% | 170963 | anthony(_at_)atkielski(_dot_)com
7.5% | 35 | 7.2% | 121074 | ehall(_at_)ehsco(_dot_)com
3.0% | 14 | 4.8% | 80253 | pdeutsch(_at_)earthlink(_dot_)net
3.9% | 18 | 3.6% | 60755 | valdis(_dot_)kletnieks(_at_)vt(_dot_)edu
3.4% | 16 | 3.5% | 58293 | alh-ietf(_at_)tndh(_dot_)net
3.6% | 17 | 2.6% | 43278 |
michel(_at_)arneill-py(_dot_)sacramento(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us
2.8% | 13 | 2.2% | 37288 | moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu
2.4% | 11 | 2.3% | 37930 | dwm(_at_)xpasc(_dot_)com
2.1% | 10 | 2.2% | 37479 | vjs(_at_)calcite(_dot_)rhyolite(_dot_)com
2.1% | 10 | 2.2% | 36561 | iljitsch(_at_)muada(_dot_)com
2.1% | 10 | 1.9% | 31676 |
l(_dot_)wood(_at_)eim(_dot_)surrey(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk
1.9% | 9 | 1.8% | 31053 |
shogunx(_at_)sleekfreak(_dot_)ath(_dot_)cx
1.9% | 9 | 1.8% | 31016 | vixie(_at_)vix(_dot_)com
1.9% | 9 | 1.7% | 27856 | dhc2(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net
1.9% | 9 | 1.6% | 27349 | dja2003(_at_)hotpop(_dot_)com
1.9% | 9 | 1.5% | 24511 | sbwoodside(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com
1.1% | 5 | 2.1% | 34761 | steflist(_at_)thor(_dot_)nma(_dot_)com
1.7% | 8 | 1.3% | 21321 |
jnc(_at_)ginger(_dot_)lcs(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu
1.3% | 6 | 1.7% | 28495 | richard(_at_)shockey(_dot_)us
1.3% | 6 | 1.2% | 19636 | tomson_eric(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)fr
1.3% | 6 | 1.1% | 19259 | jstracke(_at_)centive(_dot_)com
0.9% | 4 | 1.5% | 24586 | john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com
1.1% | 5 | 1.0% | 16989 | mat(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
0.9% | 4 | 0.9% | 15992 | avi(_at_)bridgewatersystems(_dot_)com
0.9% | 4 | 0.9% | 14418 |
huitema(_at_)windows(_dot_)microsoft(_dot_)com
0.9% | 4 | 0.8% | 13896 | phoffman(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 12281 | dee3(_at_)torque(_dot_)pothole(_dot_)com
0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 11323 |
ietf(_at_)soaring(_dot_)demon(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk
0.9% | 4 | 0.7% | 11275 |
tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk
0.6% | 3 | 0.8% | 13511 | darkuncle(_at_)darkuncle(_dot_)net
0.6% | 3 | 0.7% | 12302 | harald(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no
0.4% | 2 | 0.9% | 14402 | dws(_at_)hunnysoft(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.8% | 14209 |
mohta(_at_)necom830(_dot_)hpcl(_dot_)titech(_dot_)ac(_dot_)jp
0.6% | 3 | 0.6% | 10191 | wessorh(_at_)ar(_dot_)com
0.6% | 3 | 0.6% | 10181 | rwelty(_at_)averillpark(_dot_)net
0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 9109 | lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 8328 |
john(_dot_)loughney(_at_)kolumbus(_dot_)fi
0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 7803 |
sommerfeld(_at_)orchard(_dot_)arlington(_dot_)ma(_dot_)us
0.6% | 3 | 0.5% | 7584 | billc44(_at_)citynet(_dot_)net
0.6% | 3 | 0.4% | 6866 | randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.8% | 13680 | soohong(_dot_)park(_at_)samsung(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 8935 | stephen(_at_)sprunk(_dot_)org
0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 7722 | tytso(_at_)mit(_dot_)edu
0.4% | 2 | 0.5% | 7620 | rra(_at_)stanford(_dot_)edu
0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6916 | jmorris(_at_)cdt(_dot_)org
0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6630 | dank(_at_)hq(_dot_)lindsayelec(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6470 | dominic(_dot_)pinto(_at_)ieee(_dot_)org
0.4% | 2 | 0.4% | 6156 | zefram(_at_)fysh(_dot_)org
0.2% | 1 | 0.6% | 9711 | awduche(_at_)awduche(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 5077 | bmanning(_at_)isi(_dot_)edu
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4924 | fritz_saad(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4618 | ekr(_at_)rtfm(_dot_)com
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4576 | cdel(_at_)firsthand(_dot_)net
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4438 | anewton(_at_)ecotroph(_dot_)net
0.4% | 2 | 0.3% | 4335 | garmitage(_at_)swin(_dot_)edu(_dot_)au
0.2% | 1 | 0.5% | 7750 | alain(_dot_)durand(_at_)sun(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 7195 | dws+001(_at_)hunnysoft(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6953 | bob(_at_)wyman(_dot_)us
0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6315 | ggm(_at_)apnic(_dot_)net
0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6293 | et7563(_at_)sbc(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.4% | 6003 | atul(_dot_)sabharwal(_at_)intel(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5766 | hardie(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5699 | dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 5206 | cchaplin(_at_)sj(_dot_)symbol(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4923 |
peterf(_at_)exchange(_dot_)microsoft(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4425 | page(_at_)mail(_dot_)msen(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4388 | braendt(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.3% | 4306 | gk(_at_)ninebynine(_dot_)org
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 4096 |
jorge(_dot_)contreras(_at_)haledorr(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3465 | inanbe(_at_)xs4all(_dot_)nl
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3310 | hinden(_at_)iprg(_dot_)nokia(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3214 | smb(_at_)research(_dot_)att(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3194 | gray(_at_)washington(_dot_)edu
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3085 | ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 3077 | rod(_dot_)walsh(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2958 |
msa(_at_)burp(_dot_)tkv(_dot_)asdf(_dot_)org
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2946 |
vinton(_dot_)g(_dot_)cerf(_at_)mci(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2782 | swb(_at_)employees(_dot_)org
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2761 | jtk(_at_)depaul(_dot_)edu
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2661 |
bob(_dot_)natale(_at_)appliedsnmp(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.2% | 2621 | spencer_dawkins(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2510 | glc(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2416 | klensin(_at_)jck(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2323 | braden(_at_)isi(_dot_)edu
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2303 | kent(_at_)bbn(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2265 |
andy(_dot_)malis(_at_)vivacenetworks(_dot_)com
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2259 | jfbauer(_at_)comcast(_dot_)net
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 2175 |
benson(_dot_)schliesser(_at_)savvis(_dot_)net
0.2% | 1 | 0.1% | 1789 | noc(_at_)nso(_dot_)org
-------+-----+-------+---------+------------------------
100.0% | 466 |100.0% | 1684907 | Total