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Things that I think obvious....

2004-09-09 03:33:36
I thought it would make sense for me to mention a few things I have regarded as "obvious" in this discussion - just to make sure nobody comes along later and says "you can't draw a conclusion based on that - while I agree with you, there might be others who don't" or something like that.
Clarity is good.

It is very hard to state these things in a way where nobody can quibble with the formulations, but I will try anyway.

1 - The IETF exists, and it is the IETF community.

Even though we have carefully avoided defining its boundaries, I believe that we all believe that the IETF exists. And it's obvious that if the people who do the technical work leave, the IETF is nothing.
So the IETF is the community.

2 - The IETF leadership is the IESG and IAB.

Some jobs are clearly given to the IESG in our documents; other jobs are clearly given to the IAB. Some jobs are not mentioned at all. As part of the process of change, the community may select other people or create new bodies for other types of leadership. And the IAB and IESG has to be in a continuing dialogue with the community in order to figure out what the right things to do are. But there is at present no other leadership function selected by the community.

3 - The community has accepted the problem description and principles laid out in RFC 3716.

The most common reaction I have had from people who have read RFC 3716 is "it's obvious, now that you say it". And it would be hard for anyone who reads the IETF list or the IETF-announce list, or the most recent plenaries, to be completely unaware of its existence, or that we are basing further work on its conclusions. So - if there was significant disagreement with its conclusions - I'd have expected to hear that before now.

As I said - I *think* these things are fairly obvious. But it might still be reasonable to check that other people agree.
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