Agreed,
I'm never using the term IP again unless it's internet protocol.
What I meant indeed was patents in the context of software.
I Should NOT have made the assumption in this crowd, though I think
everyone agrees, that nobody here is really talking about trademarks (which
obviously is about reputation from the holders perspective) and
copyrights(i.e. stealing code directly).
-Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Anderson [mailto:dean(_at_)av8(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:13 PM
To: Ted Faber
Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum; ThomasGal(_at_)LumenVox(_dot_)com;
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Shuffle those deck chairs!
There are very good arguments as to why "intellectual property" and
derivatives should be avoided as a term. One should talk
instead about
patents, copyrights and trademarks instead. The issues
represented by the three are substantially different among
the three and they can't be successfully generalized.
To illustrate the inappriateness of the "intellectual
property" as a term, all we have to do is examine the current
state of patents, copyrights, and
trademarks: It is unlikely that Patents are on the way out.
It may be that software patents are on the way out. It may be
that biotech patents are on the way out. It is unlikely the
copyrights are on the way. It may be that copyright abuse may
be limited. It is unlikely that trademarks are on the way out.
--Dean
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Ted Faber wrote:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:44:02PM +0200, Iljitsch van
Beijnum wrote:
On 12-okt-04, at 19:36, Thomas Gal wrote:
and IP is on it's way out
Please note that in the IETF the letters "IP" first and foremost
mean "Internet Protocol". To use them for something else
is confusing.
To forestall the question, when communicating with the IETF one
shortens "intellectual property" to "IPR." You can pretend it
abbrieviates "Intellectual Property Rights" or
"Intellectual PRoperty."
It replaces both phrases in discourse and writing.
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