My point here was that Steve Kent asked 'why does nobody else here seem
to share your views'.
My answer was that they might well have taken the advice that Steve gave
that anyone who disagrees with him should give up on persuading anyone
in this forum and go elsewhere.
Two and a half thousand years ago a dispute arose in a Greek city on the
Mediterranean concerning the nature of knowledge. One side said that
knowledge should be based on observations and that these are primary.
The other side said that pure reason was supreme and started making
obscure metaphors about caves.
The intellectual successors of Plato's faction gave us the dark ages,
fascism and communism, argument from authority trumps all else. The
intellectual successors of Aristotle's faction gave us the renaissance,
science, medicine, engineering.
Empirical observation of the state of Internet security trumps argument
from authority in my view.
The state of Internet security does not justify the type of rhetorical
attacks being made.
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Steve Conner
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:26 PM
To: Noel Chiappa; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Sarcarm and intimidation
How bout an underdeveloped sense of humor?
scc
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On
Behalf Of Noel Chiappa
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:46 AM
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Cc: jnc(_at_)mercury(_dot_)lcs(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu
Subject: Re: Sarcarm and intimidation
> From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
> There would probably be a lot more people working in
the IETF who share
> my views if they did not meet with sarcasm, patronising
remarks and
> intimidation.
Just out of curiousity (and in total seriousness), I was
wondering what theory (if any) you might have for why so many
of your comments to this list - and in so many different
areas - meet this reaction. Is that a question you have ever pondered?
Noel
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