Hi,
It certainly makes sense to reword it for a pattern of difficulty or
exclusion.
On any of these criteria, since this is the IETF, it might make sense
to subject them to rough consensus criteria. I.e a country that is
being considered for a future meeting could be vetted on the IETF list.
Or they could be rephrased as guidelines to the IAD and IAOC assuming
that they could use a reasonable participant criteria (similar to the
reasonable man rule used in jurisprudence) for judging whether sites
meet these criteria, with the IETF ready to comment once they make
their recommendations.
a.
On 14 okt 2005, at 15.39, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:58, Avri Doria wrote:
I think there needs to be some mention of requirements such as:
- MUST NOT be held in a country whose visa requirements are so
stringent as to make it impossible or even extremely difficult for
some participant to attend.
An important factor worth stressing, IMHO, is the time required to
apply
for & issue a visitor visa suitable for a short-term visit. If the
time
required isn't predictable in advance and measureable in small numbers
of months, that itself is a barrier to participation.
But I might back off on a hair on the phrasing -- "several
participants"?
Let's be realistic -- we're talking about government bureaucracy here.
Is there any country out there which doesn't occasionally "randomly"
deny or significantly delay granting a visitor visa? A single
incident
ought not to preclude us from returning. A pattern of exclusion,
on the
other hand, would be a matter of concern.
- Bill
_______________________________________________
Ietf mailing list
Ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf