Sam,
I agree with you on the fact that text should stand alone.
People who think that it is not possible to describe a figure
sufficiently well enough for it to be accurately understood
without seeing it should try attending more conference calls
where they are at the wrong (as in remote) end.
--
Eric
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--> On Behalf Of Sam Hartman
--> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:51 PM
--> To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip
--> Cc: gash(_at_)att(_dot_)com; Bob Braden; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
--> Subject: Re: Process for Process Change (Was Diagrams ((Was
--> RFCs should bedistributed in XML))
-->
--> >>>>> "Hallam-Baker," == Hallam-Baker, Phillip
--> <pbaker(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com> writes:
-->
-->
--> Hallam-Baker,> I do not think that you really care about
--> Hallam-Baker,> accessibility. If you did you would
--> understand why
--> Hallam-Baker,> the idea of putting ASCII art through a text to
--> Hallam-Baker,> speech interface is utterly ridiculous.
--> At least in
--> Hallam-Baker,> HTML the voice synthesizer knows that it has come
--> Hallam-Baker,> to a diagram that it should not attempt to
--> Hallam-Baker,> interpret.
-->
-->
--> I actually can get some content out of ascii art diagrams.
--> Certainly more than I could out of a gif or png and more
--> than I would in practice out of an svg.
-->
--> I wouldn't mind though if the IETF went away from ascii
--> diagrams provided that they commit to guaranteeing that the
--> normative text is complete without the diagrams. No, doing
--> that is not as hard as some people seem to think.
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