At 15:50 05/12/2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Simon,
You are bit behind real time. We already updated this text.
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg01837.html
Dear Brian,
Great! the three stupid points I am stubbornly interested in are
gathered here! Please read what follows with humour, however the
three issues are serious.
1. could someone be kind enough to tell me which RFC forbids to quote
the URL of the currently discussed Drafts, as everyone and netiquette
demand it for every other quote. Even before the supposed mines, this
is probably the most consuming "DoS" in the IETF debate. And does not
help outreach and welcome. No offence intended, but I really think
this is (with correct name spelling) a point for a practical change.
2. I never saw anyone granted rights without corresponding duties. I
beg in vain from you and the IAOC who is legally responsible if an
RFC is judged a legal offense? Who is to pay the fine? Who will go to
jail? Only this will tell who really owns the IETF IPRs. I know the
RFC 3066 bis rises this issue: is it why no one wants to answer? or
is http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/05/minc_icann_letter/ too
near an issue to risk addressing anything associated with the issue?
Why my last IESG appeal with its consequences is not addressed?
3. I have real difficulty understanding why an Internet
user/developer needs to beg an IETF license to use, quote, change,
work on an RFC? And what will happen if he does not? I saw no
difference between the Global Internet Community and the IETF
Community until RFC 3935 told me the later was to influence the
former (through legal IPR actions to force orthodoxy?). Until then I
was stupid enough to believe the IETF IPRs were to protect their open
use and the free debate of every Internet user and developer.
Licensing permissions seem totally foreign to an open use? Unless it
is a general permanent and total open use license to everyone? Does
someone want to get royalties on TCP/IP (as de facto on the DNS and
on IP addressing)? Or is there a political control because the "USG
financed" the Internet?
If I copy all the RFCs, sort their content, add a legal blabla paying
my respects to all those who contributed through the IETF, make an
open use e-book from them all, class their proposition in some
orders, updating it when they change, mixing them with other SSDOs
propositions, etc. translating parts in various languages, adding
comments on their usage cons and pros and testing, linking the
various comments people may have made on them, etc. quoting available
open source/commercial libraries and their variations, etc. and the
various registry repositories where they can find the values of the
related parameters, i.e. what the users long for a while, will the
IAOC sue me and send me to jail as the US DMCA and the French DADVSI would do?
thank you
jfc
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