Hi -
In http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ash-alt-formats-00.txt
section 3 says:
| Furthermore, the authors propose that the IESG carefully consider
| declaring consensus in support of the change even if a large number
| of 'nays' are posted to the IESG discussion list.
I object to this text, as it might (mis)lead the reader into thinking
that the methods for declaring consensus were being modified, particularly
if this document somehow became a BCP. To deal with this issue, I suggest
the removal of the following material from section 3:
| Furthermore, the authors propose that the IESG carefully consider
| declaring consensus in support of the change even if a large number
| of 'nays' are posted to the IESG discussion list. In that regard,
| Henrik Levkowetz posted the following comment
| (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg39170.html):
|
| "Following the debate from the sideline till now, it's clear to me
| that there are at least a few people who are adamantly against
| change. I'm not at all convinced that a large majority feels this
| way. A poll might reveal more than the relative proportions of
| highly engaged people voicing their views here."
|
| Judging consensus through a poll is sometimes difficult. There is a
| vast "silent majority" that would support the proposed additional
| formats, or at least not oppose them, but will not express their
| opinion on the list. It is much more likely to hear from the very
| vocal people who are opposed to the change. That is, assuming 1000s
| of participants on the IETF discussion list, perhaps 20 expressed
| 'nays', even strong nays, could be considered a clear consensus in
| favor of change.
Randy
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