Making the sponsorship cost in different regions shared among all the
meetings will not significantly increase the sponsoring cost of those in
US/Canada, but will actually help to host more meetings everywhere,
according to the figures that I know.
It has not been, at all, my intend to complain about the sponsors,
absolutely on the contrary. It is great that companies like Nokia (in the
case of this meeting), take the lead to solve the IETF problem of lack of
adequate planning in the last couple of years to find venues and hosts. Is
the only reason we can meet here this week, because Nokia.
I'm convinced that this situation is going to improve with the new
administrative structure, actually is already happening.
To make it clear: Many thanks to Nokia and all the sponsors ! It is
fantastic.
I think there is a big misunderstanding from the participants about how much
a meeting actually cost (and in different regions). What is clear is that:
1) The hotel bills may contribute a bit to the cost of the event, but not
really so much as you believe, and seems to be very dependant on the
location.
2) The fees only cover a small portion of the cost.
3) Long time ago the host responsibility was basically to provide the
network/connectivity, terminal room and if they wish so, organize the
social. This is no longer true and at least since Yokohama (I may be wrong),
the host need to contribute with a big amount of money to make it possible.
I will say that today we can't talk anymore about host, but sponsor(s).
Regards,
Jordi
De: Keith Moore <moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu>
Responder a: <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Fecha: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:46:21 -0500
Para: Michael StJohns <mstjohns(_at_)mindspring(_dot_)com>
CC: "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Asunto: Re: Making IETF happening in different regions
What I think Jordi is saying is that he wants the US sponsors to
subsidize the cost of the overseas meetings. At least that's what it
works out to be....
Well, that's how I interpreted it also. What I found mind-boggling was
the idea that companies that volunteer to host one meeting would somehow
be willing to subsidize meetings held elsewhere. Last I knew it was
already quite difficult to find sponsors, and somehow this doesn't seem
like a good way to express our gratitude to them for their generosity.
I have also been of the impression that our hotel bills and meeting fees
were paying for most of the cost of our meetings, and that the sponsors
were mostly providing local logistical support and paying for incidental
costs - terminal room and wireless, t-shirts, subsidizing the social,
etc. And since the meeting fees are more-or-less constant and
independent of location, to me it seems like the US-only _attendees_ are
already partially subsidizing the cost of overseas meetings. Which
doesn't seem entirely "fair" but might be "reasonable" - unlike the idea
to penalize _sponsors_ of US meetings.
Keith
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